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Bob A · MLB Rookie Joined: 10 Aug 2006 Posts: 226 Location: Tucson

Barack Obama just officially announced his presidential candidacy this morning. He has said of his inexperience that only those who have been president have the qualifications to be president (in Bush's case even that obviously wasn't true).

My question to this esteemed pannel is, what do you guys think of him? Is he legit? Would you prefer him over HIllary?

DesertKnight · Posted: Sat Feb 10, 2007 4:07 pm Post subject:

Obama certainly has the brains and the charisma to be a very good president, and he would certainly be able to get more done than Hillary (because no Republican would put aside the bitterness long enough to work with her). That said, I'm still hoping Richardson wins the Democratic nod.

TAP · Posted: Sat Feb 10, 2007 4:08 pm Post subject: Re: Barack

moviegeekjn · Posted: Sat Feb 10, 2007 4:16 pm Post subject:

I've read both of his books and am very impressed. He seems like the real deal indeed--very level headed, analytical, and possessing tremendous ability to work with people of diverse views and backgrounds--a true "uniter."

Highly recommend his latest book to get a better idea of the man. I wrote up a review here
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Bob A · MLB Rookie Joined: 10 Aug 2006 Posts: 226 Location: Tucson

I am in the process of finsihing his second book right now. He is obviously a brilliant man but it remains to be seen how much he really knows about baseball...

matt · Posted: Sat Feb 10, 2007 10:22 pm Post subject:

America will NOT vote for a black man to be POTUS. Someday it will happen, but not yet.

TAP · Posted: Sat Feb 10, 2007 11:09 pm Post subject:

matt · Posted: Sun Feb 11, 2007 12:18 am Post subject:

I'm not saying that everyone is so outright racist, just that there are a lot of people who think they aren't but wouldn't want their kid to marry a black person.

Powell is a different case. He had that general thing to work.

I actually think it would be far easier for a black man to get elected running for teh GOP than the DEMs.

whatuwant · Posted: Sun Feb 11, 2007 1:09 am Post subject:

Chances are the Democratic candidate will be someone OTHER than Barack or Hillary...if you look at the last couple of major primaries, its always been a candidate that comes out of nowhere....

Howard Dean was a favorite, then Kerry and Edwards became the frontrunners; Bill Clinton was the same way; look for someone like Wes Clark or Bill Richardson (1st Mexican American president??) to come out on top; they were both vehemenently anti-war and both have good experience. (Clark as a joint Chief, and Richardson as UN rep)
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Dre · A-Ball Kid Joined: 05 Jan 2007 Posts: 24 Location: Chicago

I definitely think Obama's muslim roots and early upbringing will be his downfall. But hey, I'm a die hard Republican so that's fine by me.

TAP · Posted: Sun Feb 11, 2007 11:29 am Post subject:

Bob A · MLB Rookie Joined: 10 Aug 2006 Posts: 226 Location: Tucson

I worry about Obama for one reason. Not what he will do if he is elected but rather how he will handle the slings and arrows Rove and the Republicans will throw at him over the next 20 months or so, especially if he becomes the Democratic candidate.

He has never really been through an ugly campaign before. He moped the floor with Alan Keyes and didn't really have to get his hand dirty. Is he too nice a guy to go toe to toe with the opponents?

moviegeekjn · Posted: Sun Feb 11, 2007 3:50 pm Post subject:

Bob A · MLB Rookie Joined: 10 Aug 2006 Posts: 226 Location: Tucson

Okay, so who IS the Democratic Karl Rove?

EvilJuan · Posted: Sun Feb 11, 2007 6:36 pm Post subject:

My greatest concern with potential candidate (and so, potentially, President) Obama is -- what has he done? IIRC, he's a first-term Senator -- yes?

Like it or not -- like him or not -- at least Dubya was a two-term state governor. Believe me, I'm not here schilling (a little Diamondbacks baseball humor, that...) the Dubya administration. Heck, Clinton was also governor of Arkansas -- prob'ly 2 terms as well -- I simply don't remember.

I'd probably be more comfortable with the Obama candidacy if he got a bit more experience before running, and possibly being elected. He's young -- he's got time!
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DesertKnight · Posted: Sun Feb 11, 2007 7:18 pm Post subject:

tmar · Veteran Presence Joined: 10 Aug 2006 Posts: 1116

I think you could run "inexperience" as an asset if it were done right. My personal opinion is that the more time they spend in politics the more weighted down with favors they become and ergo less effective.

I believe I mentioned this before, but I think Hillary's people will destroy Obama.

whatuwant · Posted: Sun Feb 11, 2007 10:25 pm Post subject:

rgndvo · MLB Rookie Joined: 07 Dec 2006 Posts: 104

I tried reading obama's second book but it was too phony for me. I went into it with high hopes cause I had liked what Id heard to that point.

As for his electability, I think he could do it depending on how the chips fall between now and then. We're going to have to pick between a woman, a hispanic, an african american or a republican. I wouldnt give better odds to one of the four over the other at this point.