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Hank
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 06, 2007 3:08 pm    Post subject: Plasma v LCD Reply with quote

Okay, so I am buying a new condo, and the wiring is such that I have to have a flat panel tv to hang over the fireplace in the living room. I have always been a bit negative about flat panels, but now I have to take the plunge. I am thinking probably LCD because of glare issues, but I was hoping there might be some people in here who have already gone through this whole exercise who might have advice. Thus, if anybody else has opinions on the relative merits of lcd versus plasma, I would appreciate the input. Further, assuming lcd, is 1080p really necessary? I cannot tell the difference in the store myself, but I am wondering if I am missing something.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 06, 2007 3:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Plasma is a pain in the ass. It looks great when you first get it, but over time it fades, is susceptible to burn in, and sometimes even needs to be recharged.

I'd go with LCD if I were choosing between the two.

However, take a close look at DLP as well. Thats what I ended up getting for my house, and it's great. Colors are great, no glare, equally sharp from the side, no "screen" effect......
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 06, 2007 4:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

DLP is definitely best, but you can't hang it above the fireplace, so it is not an option. I have to stick with a flat panel.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 06, 2007 4:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

We bought an LCD-HD set (Aquos, by Sharp) several months ago, and have been very pleased with its performance.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 06, 2007 4:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Actually I think some DLP's can be hung

http://www.shentech.com/26hl84.html

http://www.shentech.com/32hl84.html
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 06, 2007 4:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

1080p only matters if you are going to get HD-TV from your cable provider or the new high end video equipment like HD-DVD or BluRay. Personally, I'd wait on the HD-DVD and BluRay because there is a format war brewing and you don't want to be stuck with Betamax v2007.

However, you might want to go ahead and get a TV with the 1080p capability now, even if you don't plan on having any of that stuff now or in the next couple of years. I look at buying a TV as a long term investment because they can last a long time. It would suck to save a few bucks now and need to buy a new one a couple of years from now.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 06, 2007 4:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pick up this month's Consumer Reports. It's the cover story.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 06, 2007 5:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just do what this guy did:

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 06, 2007 5:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

matt wrote:
Just do what this guy did:



Awesome. I hope the HOA approves. lol
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 06, 2007 5:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ROFLMFAO!!!!!!!!!!!!
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 06, 2007 5:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

matt wrote:
1080p only matters if you are going to get HD-TV from your cable provider or the new high end video equipment like HD-DVD or BluRay. Personally, I'd wait on the HD-DVD and BluRay because there is a format war brewing and you don't want to be stuck with Betamax v2007.

However, you might want to go ahead and get a TV with the 1080p capability now, even if you don't plan on having any of that stuff now or in the next couple of years. I look at buying a TV as a long term investment because they can last a long time. It would suck to save a few bucks now and need to buy a new one a couple of years from now.


I have two other rooms in the condo where a flat panel is wired, so I was thinking that even if I go lower res now, I can just shift that t.v. over a couple of years from now to one of those rooms and buy a better t.v. for the living room at that point, but I am betting I go with 1080p anyway (although there is a higher res format due out within a year or so).
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 06, 2007 8:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

matt wrote:
Personally, I'd wait on the HD-DVD and BluRay because there is a format war brewing and you don't want to be stuck with Betamax v2007.


Very true, unless you wanted to spend a bit more and hedge your bets with this LG unit that plays both formats.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 07, 2007 4:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I work for an AV company <commercial stuff only> and can tell you that right now is a great time to get 50" Plasma's.

The experts at my company go back and forth on Plasma vs LCD quality vs price. VisualAPex is a dirt cheap web dealer <remember no sales tax for purchases over the web> but they'll nail you for shipping so have them ship on your own UPS account if you can and don't <DON'T> buy any accessories through them.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 07, 2007 5:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not that dlp is chopped liver, I prefer lcd and plasma over it. and 1080 over 720 just seems like very little marginal diff as well...Now, that said plasma looks the best to me, but aren't there longevity issues burn in, and other issues with plasma. Lcd technology has been around longer, and suffers no burn in. Let us know which you decide on.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 07, 2007 9:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dangerfield, plasma has far better color than LCD, and burn in on plasmas is much less of a problem than before, but lcd lasts at least twice as long, and probably more. Plasmas also have huge glare issues, and the new condo has about 55 continuous feet of 9.5 feet high windows in the living room, so glare is a concern. LCD has higher resolution, but it does not have as good a colors, and it has more trouble with fast motion than does plasma. Also, LCD's cost more in the initial investment.

Ultimately, LCD technology is probably going to be the dominant medium, but plasma was the first flat screen t.v., and it seems to be slightly ahead of LCD in overall appearance right now. All that being said, good versions of either have amazing pictures, and I am about 90% sold on LCD. I will keep everybody posted on what I finally select.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 07, 2007 9:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you want some really cool graphics, Albert would recommend LSD over LCD.

http://www.b12partners.net/mt/images/Einstein%20and%20LSD.jpg
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 08, 2007 8:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

am i the last guy here with a regular tv? oh well, guess we won't be having any dbbp ws parties over at ol' mccray's place...

screw you rich guys. i'm goin' home.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 08, 2007 9:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

We're not rich, McCray, just old. They give us money to compensate for all the gray hair and wrinkles...
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 08, 2007 10:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have 2 10-yr old shitty tvs
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 08, 2007 1:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I hear the govt just pass some kind of mandate saying that all analog tv broadcasting was to cease in the next two years.... your 10 year old shitty tvs may be scrap at that point as will any antenna's mounted to your roofs. All so the govt can make $70B auctioning off the bandwidth.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 08, 2007 5:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

rgndvo wrote:
I hear the govt just pass some kind of mandate saying that all analog tv broadcasting was to cease in the next two years.... your 10 year old shitty tvs may be scrap at that point as will any antenna's mounted to your roofs. All so the govt can make $70B auctioning off the bandwidth.


This has been known for some years now. However, this won't affect anyone with cable or satellite--only those who are still only getting broadcast. And those people will be able to buy a set-top converter, but what's the point?
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 08, 2007 5:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have a 19 inch regular tv, and a 5 inch black and white model that I bought for $1 at an estate sale.

I also don't own a cell phone.

And I still have a turntable.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 08, 2007 6:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

BTW my company just installed a 103" plasma in our training room this morning.

We are the only dealers in the valley to have one and it is just crazy to look at.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 09, 2007 9:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I purchased a 46", 1080p, JVC LCD from BB in mid-December. However, I cancelled the order two days before it was to be delivered. It bothered me paying $2400 fo a television. I've decided to wait until the end of this year when prices will be down and quality up. I was really looking forward to watching the Dbacks on a HD big screen TV (Also the Louis Vuitton Cup and America's Cup races this Spring from Valencia, Spain).
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 09, 2007 10:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This has been known for some years now. However, this won't affect anyone with cable or satellite--only those who are still only getting broadcast. And those people will be able to buy a set-top converter, but what's the point?

I believe that still affects 15% of the population which is notable.

I've decided to wait until the end of this year when prices will be down and quality up.

At the rate things have gotten cheaper and better, you could be waiting a while before it bottoms out.
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