Diamondbacks Bullpen Forum Index Diamondbacks Bullpen
The baseball forum that doesn't suck
 
 Home       News Feed 
 FAQFAQ   SearchSearch   MemberlistMemberlist   UsergroupsUsergroups   RegisterRegister 
 ProfileProfile   Log in to check your private messagesLog in to check your private messages   Log inLog in 
Keep Byrnes or Lose more Fans?
Goto page Previous  1, 2
 
Post new topic   Reply to topic    Diamondbacks Bullpen Forum Index -> Team News
View previous topic :: View next topic  
Author Message
EvilJuan
Hall of Famer


Joined: 10 Aug 2006
Posts: 3072
Location: Phoenix, AZ

PostPosted: Wed Jun 27, 2007 11:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

levski wrote:
more likely, they'll have I-10 go straight thru chase field so you can catch a glimpse while driving home


I-17 is already close enough to do that -- just need to have an elevated portion through downtown -- oh, and leave the roof open... Wink


Last edited by EvilJuan on Wed Jun 27, 2007 11:24 am; edited 1 time in total
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
dbackfanron
MLB Rookie


Joined: 28 Oct 2006
Posts: 151

PostPosted: Wed Jun 27, 2007 11:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm not sure how much light rail will help in the East Valley because the route is miles from most residential areas and I think parking will be limited. It would be nice if Valley Metro ran their buses from the park and ride locations to and from the ball park. I would love to be able to take a bus from 40th Street and Pecos for $1.25-1.50 (.60 for kids). That park & ride lot even has covered parking.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
jimbo4net
Hall of Famer


Joined: 10 Aug 2006
Posts: 2992
Location: Peoria, AZ

PostPosted: Wed Jun 27, 2007 11:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

A rather expensive circus act to keep there... Wink
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail
tmar
Veteran Presence


Joined: 10 Aug 2006
Posts: 1800

PostPosted: Wed Jun 27, 2007 6:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

EB has exceeded my expectations of him this year and I hope he gets 4/40 from some other team as his reward.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
dirtygary
Veteran Presence


Joined: 11 Aug 2006
Posts: 1543
Location: Phoenix

PostPosted: Fri Jun 29, 2007 3:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bickley was really irresponsible with that column. He knows as well as anybody what financial limitations the Diamondbacks have, the amount of OF prospects moving up the system, and he sure oughtta be able to look at EB's splits.

What a douchebag.
_________________
The pen is mightier than the sword, if that pen is shot out of a gun
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
shoewizard
Face of the Franchise


Joined: 10 Aug 2006
Posts: 6512
Location: In front of my computer

PostPosted: Fri Jun 29, 2007 3:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

dirtygary wrote:
Bickley was really irresponsible with that column. He knows as well as anybody what financial limitations the Diamondbacks have, the amount of OF prospects moving up the system, and he sure oughtta be able to look at EB's splits.

What a douchebag.


Being irresponsible with his columns is a frequent thing with him. Remember the ridiculous columns about the pictures in the hallway......that he was wrong about anyway?
_________________
Crushed by the weight of lowered ceilings.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Hank
Everyday Player


Joined: 11 Aug 2006
Posts: 599
Location: Phoenix

PostPosted: Fri Jun 29, 2007 3:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

dbackfanron wrote:
I'm not sure how much light rail will help in the East Valley because the route is miles from most residential areas and I think parking will be limited. It would be nice if Valley Metro ran their buses from the park and ride locations to and from the ball park. I would love to be able to take a bus from 40th Street and Pecos for $1.25-1.50 (.60 for kids). That park & ride lot even has covered parking.


Light rail's limitations have more to do with the geographic layout of the City than anything. It would be prohibitively expensive to build enough rail and spurs to really make an impact on downtown events. The rail line going in will have little, if any, impact on attendance, since it doesn't go near very many population centers, and the ones it passes have no disposable income (save the downtown dwellers in Roosevelt or Willo). If you live downtown as I do, it will be great. For everybody else, probably not so much.
_________________
2007 Gameday thread record = 2-0.
2007 In stadium record = 5-8.

F* the NBA.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
David B
Everyday Player


Joined: 11 Aug 2006
Posts: 891
Location: Portland

PostPosted: Fri Jun 29, 2007 4:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The thing with light rail is that it takes a number of years to build a network of lines. In Portland, we started in the late 70s, and 30 years later we only have three completed routes, and one more that's in the process of being completed.

Still, a system of lines has to start somewhere.
_________________
Someday we'll look back on this moment and plow into a parked car
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
dirtygary
Veteran Presence


Joined: 11 Aug 2006
Posts: 1543
Location: Phoenix

PostPosted: Sat Jun 30, 2007 11:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Light rail is within a 1/4 mile of 100's of thousands of residents, believe it or not. Figure 60k+ at ASU, and the increased residential up the Central Ave Corridor, plus the northern spur, it makes getting to the ballpark immensely more convenient to a lot of people.

Just speaking from experience, I think a lot of students will hop on the train to the ballpark, and back. Literally, 3-5k per game. The demographics support that, at least while school is in session, which is only about 1/2 the season. Still, that comes out to an additional 120-200k per year, an additional 5-8% overall increase. And it will bring a much different ethnic element to the ballpark. It'll be great to show that Phoenix is more than a bi-cultural city.

Also important to note is that maybe a bigger bonus than the light rail opening will be the end of light rail construction, something that I find to be an extreme deterrent to downtown travel. If all the other businesses have temporarily suffered, stands to reason the baseball club is in the same boat, barring extreme circumstances, like the Suns being a top-3, exciting NBA team for the last 3 years.

Given all the forces coming together for the '09 season - young players coming into their own, an increased payroll, a post-Nash transition period for the Suns, light rail and downtown revitalization, economic upturns, etc. - the Diamondbacks shouldn't be wasting their money building a wall and limiting seats. Attendance will be damn near 40k/game.
_________________
The pen is mightier than the sword, if that pen is shot out of a gun
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
TAP
Hall of Famer


Joined: 10 Aug 2006
Posts: 4562
Location: The Heart of Diamondbacks Country

PostPosted: Sat Jun 30, 2007 11:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

dirtygary wrote:
Given all the forces coming together for the '09 season - young players coming into their own, an increased payroll, a post-Nash transition period for the Suns, light rail and downtown revitalization, economic upturns, etc. - the Diamondbacks shouldn't be wasting their money building a wall and limiting seats. Attendance will be damn near 40k/game.

Mr. Hall, tear down this wall! Laughing
_________________
"A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings."
- Earl Wilson
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Dangerfield
Veteran Presence


Joined: 13 Aug 2006
Posts: 1082
Location: worm factory

PostPosted: Sat Jun 30, 2007 11:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Byrnes 4 yr/28 mil with 7 million more in incentives.
_________________
My wife is always trying to get rid of me. The other day she told me to put the garbage out. I said to her I already did. She told me to go and keep an eye on it
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
qudjy1
Hall of Famer


Joined: 10 Aug 2006
Posts: 2990

PostPosted: Sat Jun 30, 2007 12:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dangerfield wrote:
Byrnes 4 yr/28 mil with 7 million more in incentives.


He wont/shouldnt take it. Depending on what teh 2nd half brings, thats about 1 year and 22 Mil short of what he will be asking.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
levski
Hall of Famer


Joined: 10 Aug 2006
Posts: 3060

PostPosted: Sat Jun 30, 2007 12:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dangerfield wrote:
Byrnes 4 yr/28 mil with 7 million more in incentives.


28 million here, 28 million there, and soon you're talking real money.

that's 28 million too many
_________________
Shoewizard is my Big Papi
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Dangerfield
Veteran Presence


Joined: 13 Aug 2006
Posts: 1082
Location: worm factory

PostPosted: Sat Jun 30, 2007 12:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OW4sarExBjw&mode=related&search=


well I was looking for social D's cover of Byrning ring of fire...these 2 gonad's the reason why we should re-sign Byrnes


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YqvpqIkK3L4

Here drunk 15 year olds even better...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uw1A8T_2pAw

how bout a 9 year old

Without Byrnes, you guys all realize we probably would be laughing stocks right now right, Byrnes NL mvp
_________________
My wife is always trying to get rid of me. The other day she told me to put the garbage out. I said to her I already did. She told me to go and keep an eye on it
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
ncdbackfan
Journeyman


Joined: 11 Aug 2006
Posts: 273
Location: Charlotte, NC

PostPosted: Sat Jun 30, 2007 7:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

dirtygary wrote:
Also important to note is that maybe a bigger bonus than the light rail opening will be the end of light rail construction, something that I find to be an extreme deterrent to downtown travel. If all the other businesses have temporarily suffered, stands to reason the baseball club is in the same boat, barring extreme circumstances, like the Suns being a top-3, exciting NBA team for the last 3 years.


Glad to see us here in Charlotte are not the only ones dealing with light rail construction. My office is right beside the new line and I've been dealing with it for 2+ years now. I can empathize with you. Our line is "supposed" to be completed in November (already been pushed back several times and still behind schedule). What is your expected completion date?
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
EvilJuan
Hall of Famer


Joined: 10 Aug 2006
Posts: 3072
Location: Phoenix, AZ

PostPosted: Sun Jul 01, 2007 1:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sutton and Williams are really talking up EB on today's broadcast.

If he keeps it up performance-wise after the ASB, that kind of media focus isn't going to make it any easier when the contract runs out and EB signs somewhere else... Shocked
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Display posts from previous:   
Post new topic   Reply to topic    Diamondbacks Bullpen Forum Index -> Team News All times are GMT - 7 Hours
Goto page Previous  1, 2
Page 2 of 2

 
Jump to:  
You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum



visitors since April 13, 2006.
Powered by phpBB © 2001, 2005 phpBB Group