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wedge · AA Prospect Joined: 23 Aug 2006 Posts: 41

to be fair, this game was waaaay more frustrating than the rockies game, lots of people aired their frustrations tonight.

EDIT: aaaaaand I push it to 21!

DBACKSHEELSPANTHS · Posted: Sat Aug 26, 2006 12:19 am Post subject:

Well...i cannot believe i stayed up to watch that!! its after 3am here now....im going to bed now!

DBACKS WIN!!!
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TAP · Posted: Sat Aug 26, 2006 12:28 am Post subject:

Hank · Posted: Sat Aug 26, 2006 12:33 am Post subject:

stu · Everyday Player Joined: 12 Aug 2006 Posts: 536

Just got back from the game. Good thing they won. That would have been a pisser to sit though that and have them lose.

Some very good D. The bunt by CQ was stupid. In addition to what has been said is that the Dodger were expecting it and playing in. Melvin still doesn't understand that your goal should be to do the opposite of what they are playing for, when the odds are about even with your two choices.

He did this with Drew's bunt. They were back. Drew bunted and got the error. These plays are not always going to work out but give yourself the best chance.

With if 3b and 1b charging on CQ's bunt the best you are going to is is to have the bases loaded one out and a pitcher (albeit Hernandez) batting. Stupid.

Finally, check out the Tracy bobblehead tommorrow. He is pulling off the ball, head looking up.

matt · Posted: Sat Aug 26, 2006 1:03 am Post subject:

awesome win guys, I was able to see bits and pieces of the game. fp, you were perfect tonight. I just read all 21 pages all at once. Looking forward to seeing some of you guys tomorrow.

stu · Everyday Player Joined: 12 Aug 2006 Posts: 536

And Hernandez was pinch hitting!!!. Take off 10% for that too bozo.

I know modern GMs want their manager to be a cipher, but can't we have one that at least knows how to count?

TAP · Posted: Sat Aug 26, 2006 1:39 am Post subject:

B. O. N. D. · Posted: Sat Aug 26, 2006 2:04 am Post subject:

shoewizard · Posted: Sat Aug 26, 2006 8:57 am Post subject:

Listening to the post game last night, Melvin claimed to know that Estrada would be walked and he calculated he would rather have Livan hit with the bases loaded than risk Q or Estrada hitting into a double play.

I swear, you can't make this stuff up.

I know it was not Melvin's fault that they could not deliver the one hit to score a run until so late....(yeah Hudson)......

but Ya know....if a managers strong point is his even personality, and ability to communicate with players ...thats fine....it's a huge part of the job. But his in game "strategic thinking", (and it is about as generous as can be to even refer to it that way) is EXTREMELY poor. We see it over and over again. So he needs a bench coach to do that for him. He needs a better strategic mind sitting with him on the bench whisepering in his ear all the right moves.

I VOLUNTEER!! Laughing

shoewizard · Posted: Sat Aug 26, 2006 8:58 am Post subject:

stu · Everyday Player Joined: 12 Aug 2006 Posts: 536

Melvin claimed to know that Estrada would be walked and he calculated he would rather have Livan hit with the bases loaded than risk Q or Estrada hitting into a double play.

Not much faith in CQ that he would get a hit. Also LH is not the swiftest runner in the world. Is Estrada that much more likely to hit into a dp? And isn't Estrada our "clutch hitter"?

EvilJuan · Posted: Sat Aug 26, 2006 9:50 am Post subject:

Dangerfield · Posted: Sat Aug 26, 2006 9:51 am Post subject:

I'm finishing up all the posts. I turned off the game at about the same time as Shoe....but I wasn't out of coupons.
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TAP · Posted: Sat Aug 26, 2006 10:03 am Post subject:

tmar · Veteran Presence Joined: 10 Aug 2006 Posts: 1124

Once Levski & Shoe take over in the office I want the vending contract.

TAP · Posted: Sat Aug 26, 2006 10:19 am Post subject:

tmar · Veteran Presence Joined: 10 Aug 2006 Posts: 1124

I was thinking more of getting employees that know how to move a tad faster than a snail with a boot. I bet they could increase sales by 20% if they "reorganized" the whole process to make it more efficient. I mean how many times have you decided not to get a hotdog or beer because the line was too long.

stu · Everyday Player Joined: 12 Aug 2006 Posts: 536

Estrada' g/f ratio makes him a flyball hitter. Anything under one would be flyball. Do they count hits as g/b or do they just count outs?

LH is 3.23 g/f so he is much more likely to hit a gb. LH's k/ab ratio is pretty good (97k/697ab, but his obp stinks (247 versus a 237 ba). Not much chance to get the run in by a walk.

GIDP is not an equal opportunity stat. While people minimalize rbi as not being equal opportunity they don't think of GIDP as discriminating. I agree Estarda is a prime dp candiate, but he has probably had more chances as he bats behind Gonzo and Jackson.

FWIW, LH has grounded in 24 dp's in 697 ab's. My guess is his ratio is worse than Estarda.

LH's stats

shoewizard · Posted: Sat Aug 26, 2006 11:03 am Post subject:

Well, I just looked up DP% at Baseball Prospectus, and to be fair, Estrada's is the highest on the team among players with 100 PA or more

matt · Posted: Sat Aug 26, 2006 11:27 am Post subject:

stu · Everyday Player Joined: 12 Aug 2006 Posts: 536

Those dp numbers from BP look like all dp's, not just GIDP. The 12 TAP used for GIDP is confirmed by espn

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/players/stats?playerId=4713

If you use GIDP you get about 15% for Estrada. I agree he is a prime dp candidate and that is something to teake into account, but I am not seeing LH as being that much better and maybe worse as he hits more gb's.

LH's GIDP this has to be a pretty small sample. His lifetime would be what to look at, but I don't know where to look.

moviegeekjn · Posted: Sat Aug 26, 2006 12:04 pm Post subject:

shoewizard · Posted: Sat Aug 26, 2006 12:44 pm Post subject: