Diamondbacks Bullpen

Dangerfield · Posted: Tue Dec 19, 2006 9:11 pm Post subject:

http://www.baseball-reference.com/s/simmote01.shtml

I bet you could splice them them together, at the plate, and it would be pretty darn close.
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dirtygary · Posted: Wed Dec 20, 2006 3:29 pm Post subject:

matt · Posted: Wed Dec 20, 2006 4:23 pm Post subject:

Reading things about how much he's improved makes you wonder how bad it actually was. Shocked

Dangerfield · Posted: Wed Jan 10, 2007 11:59 am Post subject:

cj in the 3 hole, I'd like him to come in with a bb/k ratio, over .9 and hopefully under 20 hr's. 330/400/510 95 rbi's.

That's if he's in the 3 hole. Hopefully he doesn't need to be the rbi guy again. He could make a run for the batting title if doesn't have to expand his strike zone.
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wabaseball34 · Posted: Wed Jan 10, 2007 1:45 pm Post subject:

i voted up, no doubt. I think this year, Co-Jack is really going to come around.

TAP · Posted: Thu Jan 25, 2007 11:46 pm Post subject:

Josh Byrnes acknowledged the Diamondbacks never actively sought a power hitter who could fill the club's lack of a traditional No. 4 man in the lineup. They went without one last year after failed experiments of bringing in the likes of Richie Sexson and Troy Glaus.

"Lineup construction can be a funny thing," Byrnes said. "Our record was very good when Conor Jackson was our cleanup hitter last year. We might not have that prototypical No. 4 guy, but I think we're going to have eight very good hitters, bench players who can hit, and I think we'll be looking at a lineup where every spot can hit 10 and several spots might hit 20 homers. So I think there's a lot of danger in the lineup."

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tmar · Veteran Presence Joined: 10 Aug 2006 Posts: 1184

Not to bring Hairston into everything but I wonder if any of that reads that JB is planning on keeping Hairston.

TAP · Posted: Sat Feb 10, 2007 1:24 pm Post subject:

stu · Everyday Player Joined: 12 Aug 2006 Posts: 560

The 4 hitter leads off an inning a surprising number of times. Jackson's OBP should be the determinitve factor here and it is a no brainer between Byrnes and CJ for number 4. Also a walk to keep an inning alive, move along the runners and place some more pressure on the pitcher is not a bad thing even with men on base.

Jackson, as is typical of rookies, got shafted by the umps last year at least in the early part of the season. I thought he handled it well. Complaining but not making an ass of himself. I know some of the announcing crew disagreed with this an thought he was complaining too muc, but you have to stand for youself and Melvin wasn't doing it for CJ.

I think his stats at the close of the year and being optimistic for next year are in some small part the result of getting fairer calls from the umps. I don't see CJ as a consistent 900 OBP guy but a 380 OBP and 460 slugging are very realistic and may be low. I'm voting up with a bullet on this one.

whatuwant · Posted: Sat Feb 10, 2007 4:01 pm Post subject:

Dre · Posted: Sat Feb 10, 2007 4:33 pm Post subject:

stu · Everyday Player Joined: 12 Aug 2006 Posts: 560

I see very few similarities between Karros and Jackson. Just looking at the k/w shows the clear difference. Karros was much more of a free longer swinger without Jackson's strike zone judgment. Jackson has a much better approach at the plate. I will be disappointed if Jackson has Karros' career although Karros did have a few very good years.

They are right handed first baseman though.

shoewizard · Posted: Sat Feb 10, 2007 5:44 pm Post subject:

No kidding.....Karros had a career .325 OBP, and it wasn't just because of Chavez Latrine. Neutralized his OBP only goes up to .327

I with you Stu.....Jackson's upside better be much better than Karros'

stu · Everyday Player Joined: 12 Aug 2006 Posts: 560

Simmons (a very underrated player) is actually better stat comp when you adjust for park and era. About 20 point over park adjusted league average in OBP puts Simmons at around a 372 OBP in 2006 at Chase and slugging at about a 480. These are reasonable numbers for Jackson for his career with a higher peak, of course.

Now, Simmons was shorter, lighter, a catcher, had a different swing and stance, and was a switch hitter, but why sweat the small stuff.

Dangerfield · Posted: Sat Feb 10, 2007 5:58 pm Post subject:

They'll be what Simba's numbers would of been in a hitter friendly park, and if Simmons was a first baseman. Cojack could hit 350 with 400 obp, that much I'm sure of. He has to work for his power, which I don't like seeing guys do, because it leads to bad habits. There is a ceiling to his power right now, but if he starts dropping the head of the bat on those inside pitches, that he's hooked foul for homers, of course he won't see those pitches again mind you, his power numbers go up...but 15-25 would be his ceiling if he does it naturally, on mistake pitches. Anymore comes at the expense of average/ and habits.
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TAP · Posted: Sat Feb 10, 2007 6:05 pm Post subject: