The only thing that drives one crazy here is that due to lack of opportunity, and also injury, he just has very little trade value. It's crazy. If given 500 at bats in the majors, you just know Josh's phone would be ringing every day with teams trying to get Hairston.
Are you coming back to my side about trading EB??? get off the fence man...
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Posted: Tue Jan 23, 2007 3:16 pm Post subject:
I knew my comment would be interpreted that way...LOL
I am of a mind that this team can make the playoffs in 2007 without hurting the future, and making the playoffs in 2007 will help the future alot, because it will drive up attendance, interest and revenues.
So in order to make Byrnes tradeable, Davanon has to find a way to heal quicker and get ready to play games ASAP. If Davanon is questionable, they need Byrnes...simple as that.
Anyway, right now there just is no market for Byres...there might be in mid-late march.
I knew my comment would be interpreted that way...LOL
I am of a mind that this team can make the playoffs in 2007 without hurting the future, and making the playoffs in 2007 will help the future alot, because it will drive up attendance, interest and revenues.
So in order to make Byrnes tradeable, Davanon has to find a way to heal quicker and get ready to play games ASAP. If Davanon is questionable, they need Byrnes...simple as that.
Anyway, right now there just is no market for Byres...there might be in mid-late march.
I know he'd want to be back there, but is the feeling mutual? I remember reading that the fans loved watching him run around in his caffiene buzz and a dirty uniform but the A's seem to smart to waste good money on Byrnes.
These quite respectable numbers are the first four years of minor league ball for Eric Byrnes. Our free swinging left-fielder actually showed a decent eye at the plate, only dipping in that final year coincidentally when he first hit 20 homeruns in a season. By the time he actually reached the A's he seemed to become more of a hacker, but at times last season he put together decent at bats and worked walks.
My question is ... is it too late to reinstill the patience he first exhibited as a professional if we were to make him our leadoff hitter? He's shown himself to be an intelligent guy. Take a few more pitches, try to get a lot more walks, take advantage of his superior baserunning skills and stolen base ability. He's going to get his fair share of doubles and triples that are also going to instantly put him into scoring position. If this approach is at the expense of swinging for the fences, would E. Byrnes balk with this essentially being his "walk year" into free agency? I'd rather see him leading off than batting clean-up. Where else might he fit into the line-up?
Rudi Law rule working. Look at their stats with a runner on first. Byrnes, becomes the obp man, with his sb ability, bat Drew second...50 homers. Sb overrated.???'m on to something here, Qudjy, get on the case and start looking at synergy of a goodbase stealer, and a fastball hitter behind him, and what that hitter's stat are with the said basestealer on first.
Tab these Dangerfield stats as Abe Vigoda's.
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I'm on to something here, Qudjy, get on the case and start looking at synergy of a goodbase stealer, and a fastball hitter behind him, and what that hitter's stat are with the said basestealer on first.
I'm not Qudjy, but I'll let you know what I know. The studies I've seen regarding basestealer on first seem to show, as I poorly recall, that is varies too much batter to batter and pitcher to pitcher for any generality to be made.
Some hitters can see and advantage, but some see it as a major distraction. Same with pitchers (Andy Pettite would rather walk the leadoff man and pick him off first than give into him when behind in the count).
Honestly Dangerfield, if you'd watch the game and get your head out of the (management) books you might learn something about this game.
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Posted: Mon Jan 29, 2007 12:10 pm Post subject:
Dylan wrote:
Dangerfield wrote:
I'm on to something here, Qudjy, get on the case and start looking at synergy of a goodbase stealer, and a fastball hitter behind him, and what that hitter's stat are with the said basestealer on first.
I'm not Qudjy, but I'll let you know what I know. The studies I've seen regarding basestealer on first seem to show, as I poorly recall, that is varies too much batter to batter and pitcher to pitcher for any generality to be made.
Some hitters can see and advantage, but some see it as a major distraction. Same with pitchers (Andy Pettite would rather walk the leadoff man and pick him off first than give into him when behind in the count).
Honestly Dangerfield, if you'd watch the game and get your head out of the (management) books you might learn something about this game.
So then you admit, some hitters see it as an advantage. The generality is, the art of basestealing is exactly that, but teams like the Yanks, LaRussa, the Pinella teams, have definitely used it to their advantage. I could argue, the stolen base may be the most important asset a team could have on offense.
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I'm on to something here, Qudjy, get on the case and start looking at synergy of a goodbase stealer, and a fastball hitter behind him, and what that hitter's stat are with the said basestealer on first.
I'm not Qudjy, but I'll let you know what I know. The studies I've seen regarding basestealer on first seem to show, as I poorly recall, that is varies too much batter to batter and pitcher to pitcher for any generality to be made.
Some hitters can see and advantage, but some see it as a major distraction. Same with pitchers (Andy Pettite would rather walk the leadoff man and pick him off first than give into him when behind in the count).
Honestly Dangerfield, if you'd watch the game and get your head out of the (management) books you might learn something about this game.
So then you admit, some hitters see it as an advantage. The generality is, the art of basestealing is exactly that, but teams like the Yanks, LaRussa, the Pinella teams, have definitely used it to their advantage. I could argue, the stolen base may be the most important asset a team could have on offense.
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