Diamondbacks Bullpen

baldmaga · Posted: Mon Dec 25, 2006 2:39 pm Post subject:

I just came here to post that...I WAS SHOCKED AZ WAS ON ESPN... Cool

Anywho, if this deal could get away with just dumping Julio, a couple mid-level prospects, and then getting some ownership approval to loosening those strings on their pocketbooks...Hey, they have their #2 lefty pitcher.

Tucson DBacks Fan · MLB Rookie Joined: 13 Oct 2006 Posts: 208

So the Diamondbacks and the Padres are in a bidding war? I like the move for the Dimandbacks even if they have to pick up all the Yankees' finanical obligation if they are able to renegotiate a contract for 2 years. They could be wrong with a 2 year $24 million dollar contract, but this is Randy Johnson who has a lot of meaning for this team and the fans. This is a gamble I would take. I hope that the major leaguer being referred to in the trade is a bullpen pitcher. I don't think the Ynakees would be interested in a position player.

Espo · MLB Rookie Joined: 07 Dec 2006 Posts: 173

Someone on another board made a good point about the Yanks needing a 1B and that the major leaguer may be Tony Clark seeing as he can play 1B and his contract is only one year long.

Guitar Salad · Posted: Mon Dec 25, 2006 3:45 pm Post subject:

Bob A · MLB Rookie Joined: 10 Aug 2006 Posts: 229 Location: Tucson

Take Tony Clark---please!

levski · Veteran Presence Joined: 10 Aug 2006 Posts: 1776

B. O. N. D. · Posted: Mon Dec 25, 2006 4:04 pm Post subject:

B. O. N. D. · Posted: Mon Dec 25, 2006 4:15 pm Post subject:

Guitar Salad · Posted: Mon Dec 25, 2006 4:23 pm Post subject:

clpp01 · A-Ball Kid Joined: 11 Aug 2006 Posts: 19

I'll call bs on this one. According to KFMB via mlbrumors the dbacks are "offering" Chad Tracy and 2 prospects for RJ.

http://www.mlb-rumors.blogspot.com/

dirtygary · Posted: Mon Dec 25, 2006 4:23 pm Post subject:

I think this is only talk to show that we're "trying" to improve the team. No chance JB takes RJ on. Even for that 2nd year. RJ's stuff is gone, he's coasting on fumes, and will barely be able to make it through '07, let alone '08.

Also, there is no reason to beleive that RJ will up the gate. The attendance for RJ games and others throughout his AZ stay was nearly identical. The team we're playing has had much more impact on attendance than who we have on the hill.

Besides, if we're going to give up some players or pick up $16MM, I'd rather we use those resources to go after Westbrook.
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B. O. N. D. · Posted: Mon Dec 25, 2006 4:46 pm Post subject:

levski · Veteran Presence Joined: 10 Aug 2006 Posts: 1776

well, the rumor has teeth all right.

mlb is circulating the same AP story.

i think everybody and his mother has a trade scenario

B. O. N. D. · Posted: Mon Dec 25, 2006 5:04 pm Post subject:

levski · Veteran Presence Joined: 10 Aug 2006 Posts: 1776

the guy at the liquor store who heard it on the radio?

take it to the bank!

B. O. N. D. · Posted: Mon Dec 25, 2006 5:14 pm Post subject:

I did use the code phrase for 'bullshit':

shoewizard · Posted: Mon Dec 25, 2006 5:16 pm Post subject:

I think when a guys numbers are SO much worse with runners on, you just have to go to the obvious: He is having problems pitching from the stretch. His high ERA is not a "fluke" In this case, it is most likely that he just couldn't get the push from the stretch that he got from the windup, and thats probably connected to the back injury, but could just as likely be his knee problem......

Remember the knee? The one that is bone on bone and requires injections to keep lubricated?

Anyway, clearly there is a problem pitching from the stretch,and that is why his ERA was so much worse than his periphs and FIP would indicate

None on .206/.271/.324 595 OPS Against (481 AB)
Runners on .321/.363/.564 927 OPS Against (296 AB)

baldmaga · Posted: Mon Dec 25, 2006 5:25 pm Post subject:

Along the lines of that alledged three team deal...it could be possible that a 3rd team could be offering some payroll relief in exchange for prospects.

FatLeprechaun · A-Ball Kid Joined: 25 Dec 2006 Posts: 23

What are the Yankees likely to be looking for in a trade for RJ? Do they have any specific holes or needs?

I guess they could use an extra good reliever (Julio or Cruz?) and a first basemen (Tony Clark or Conor Jackson), and could always use starting pitching prospects (Nippert, Owings, or one of the Gonzalezes?). And if they deal Melky Cabrera, they might be interested in Bryes as a backup outfielder.

So what are the most likely trade packages for RJ?

levski · Veteran Presence Joined: 10 Aug 2006 Posts: 1776

baldmaga · Posted: Mon Dec 25, 2006 6:09 pm Post subject: Re: What do the Yankees want?

levski · Veteran Presence Joined: 10 Aug 2006 Posts: 1776

I was being facetious, of course. I found it funny that Leperchaun (welcome to the board, by the way; don't let me being an a-hole dissuade you from sticking around) would lump Clark and Jackson in the same sentence...

FatLeprechaun · A-Ball Kid Joined: 25 Dec 2006 Posts: 23

Haha, no problem Smile

I was just listing a number of players as trade possibilities, not that a viable package would have to include all of them.

But still I'm afraid the Yankees might want a lot in return for Johnson. Don't forget that we gave up quite a bit for Doug Davis, a no-name lefty starter.

levski · Veteran Presence Joined: 10 Aug 2006 Posts: 1776

levski · Veteran Presence Joined: 10 Aug 2006 Posts: 1776

Btw, I absolutely do not think the Yankees want Julio and Clark.

Just wanted to post a link to (gack) Will Carroll's latest ramblings. Fwiw.

http://www.baseballprospectus.com/unfiltered/?p=118