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levski · Veteran Presence Joined: 10 Aug 2006 Posts: 1776

from the article on wells, already linked... but worth posting

http://www.eastvalleytribune.com/index.php?sty=80382

misterx · Posted: Sun Dec 10, 2006 10:38 am Post subject:

isnt this the drew and upton story all over again
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Oden · Posted: Sun Dec 10, 2006 1:27 pm Post subject:

Similar, but not really. They're nowhere near the deadline to sign him and he wouldn't start throwing for the team for another 1 1/2 months, so why not take your time and be certain that the kid is healthy first? I think it's smart to wait.
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B. O. N. D. · Posted: Sun Dec 10, 2006 1:38 pm Post subject:

Boras has got his hands full on a number of fronts anyway right now.
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misterx · Posted: Sun Dec 10, 2006 2:02 pm Post subject:

Oden · Posted: Sun Dec 10, 2006 2:05 pm Post subject:

Only if they're a Bora$$ client or the #1 overall.
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levski · Veteran Presence Joined: 10 Aug 2006 Posts: 1776

misterx · Posted: Sun Dec 10, 2006 3:10 pm Post subject:

nothing if you get the deal done but why chance it
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baldmaga · Posted: Sun Dec 10, 2006 6:31 pm Post subject:

misterx · Posted: Sun Dec 10, 2006 6:42 pm Post subject:

my last post I said nothing was wrong with I would just like it done sooner then later
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stu · Everyday Player Joined: 12 Aug 2006 Posts: 565

There are negotiators who believe that waiting until the last minute gets you the best deal. Boras is generally one of these.

The trick with these guys is not to get flustered by the delay and be patient. I'm not sure that Upton got that much more money (in current value) than he would have gotton had he signed early. He also lost a year of development and a year towards Rule 5. This was not an issue with Drtew because of the roster spot. I expect Boras will demand a spot for Scherzer.

Boras also believes in getting the most money for his client. This is good if the money is there. It is not so good if the team says no as they did with Harrington (Boras was his second, at least, agent and turned down a 1M or so from the Padres because it wasn't enough). I get the feeling the Boras is often negotiating fo his next client and his rep as much as for the client in that specific case where sometimes it might be better to sign early for sure money albeit a bit less money.

However, statistically Boras does a lot better over the long for his clients by his tactics. That one occassionally gets screwed is made up for by the results he gets for other clients by his tactics and rep.

foulpole · Veteran Presence Joined: 10 Aug 2006 Posts: 1360

Boras may be part of the reason that we got both Drew and Scherzer so late in the draft. Many GMs didn't want to deal with the negotiations.

If we are patient dealing with Boras and can sign him for a fair price then it may be worth the wait.

Tucson DBacks Fan · MLB Rookie Joined: 13 Oct 2006 Posts: 208

It sure looks like it was worth it with Drew!

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Dangerfield · Posted: Mon Dec 11, 2006 10:36 am Post subject:

with the steal of Anderson, which I feel sorry for catchers, because he has such wicked movement, Schezer can go back to the draft as far as I care too. Poor high school catchers must of had some swollen hands from him.(Ando)
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TAP · Posted: Sun Dec 17, 2006 5:38 pm Post subject:

According to Matt Nestor of the Columbia Daily Tribune, three things are holding up the Max Scherzer signing:
1) Scott Boras is busy right now taking care of his FA clients.
2) Arizona's concern over Max's biceps tendonitis.
3) The departure of Mike Rizzo who drafted Max, forcing Boras to deal directly with Josh Byrnes.

"When steps get taken, I get informed. I’m in the decision process on the way everything needs to go," Scherzer said. "I’m in contact with them (Scott Boras and staff) a bunch, not always about a contract, but just about what to do baseball-wise, workout-wise and different things like that."

B. O. N. D. · Posted: Sun Dec 17, 2006 6:55 pm Post subject:

B. O. N. D. · Posted: Sun Jan 07, 2007 12:31 pm Post subject:

Here's some Max Scherzer vids.

Where's the money going to come from to sign this guy now that the Unit must be paid?

1. Max Scherzer from the stretch.

2. Max Scherzer wind-up.
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Guitar Salad · Posted: Sun Jan 07, 2007 7:36 pm Post subject:

Who hired that cameraman? It's almost a good thing that I had a headache already because I certainly would have had one after that.
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qudjy1 · Veteran Presence Joined: 10 Aug 2006 Posts: 1137

A month and Change until Spring training, and no word on Scherzer. I hope he signs in time to be ready for the season...

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