Diamondbacks Bullpen

foulpole · Veteran Presence Joined: 10 Aug 2006 Posts: 1358

Ok gang, I've read a lot of discussion about PV's playing when they shouldn't and young guys not getting a chance.

I've also read that we can't put the young guys in pressure situations ( i.e. the 4 hole etc. ). Make up your mind. Either we play the young guys or not ( including "the though spots" ) are they ready to play or should they be pampered and get more seasoning?

Just a thought.

Fire away.

1golfer1 · MLB Rookie Joined: 25 Aug 2006 Posts: 135

i would rather watch eric byrnes play elsewhere. what is he really gonna bring to us the next few years? much rather watch a kid get some seasoning.

shoewizard · Posted: Wed Dec 06, 2006 9:41 pm Post subject:

Who said we can't put a young guy in the 4 hole? I must have missed that post.

I would put Quentin or Hairston in the 4 hole with no problem. Either one can get the job done.

1golfer1 · MLB Rookie Joined: 25 Aug 2006 Posts: 135

hairston deserves as much a shot as byrnes. just throw him out there!

EvilJuan · Posted: Wed Dec 06, 2006 9:51 pm Post subject:

Counsell · MLB Rookie Joined: 28 Aug 2006 Posts: 220

Nobody is saying that you can't put a young guy in the 4th slot. Regardless, the importance of the 4th slot is over-rated.
(The exception would be if your guys in the 5th through 8th slots can't hit.)

TAP · Posted: Wed Dec 06, 2006 9:58 pm Post subject:

shoewizard · Posted: Wed Dec 06, 2006 10:08 pm Post subject:

EvilJuan · Posted: Wed Dec 06, 2006 10:31 pm Post subject:

My views on having a rookie bat clean-up are undoubtedly a remnant from the "conventional" baseball wisdom I grew up with; being expanded by a new way of watching/thinking about baseball. Hence the "sort of" view articulated earlier in the discussions. Note, however, that while the "old" way of thinking caused me to raise concerns about CoJack being so often slotted in the #4 slot during the '06 season, I did give him credit with doing as "well" (if we can say that about the Diamondbacks in '06...) as any of the veterans who got that assignment. Note also my unqualified support of either CoJack or Quentin in that slot next year -- even if it is, in part, an "AbB" strategy. (Anybody but Byrnes)

Trying to teach this old dog new tricks...

And TAP, ain't no way the 20 pushups are going to happen! Shocked

(At least, not without a LOT more "push-aways" -- as in, "push away from the table before you've stuffed yerself agin...")
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moviegeekjn · Posted: Wed Dec 06, 2006 10:49 pm Post subject:

Dangerfield · Posted: Wed Dec 06, 2006 11:01 pm Post subject:

The worst number 4 in recent memory was Glaus. That guy even got hittable pitches or swung at non hittable ones to put himself in a hole, in high energy situations. I have in faith CQ. He's already proven himself in the high energy situations, and he just looks the part. Cojack can handle it as well, he's just better as a number 3. He's as pure of number 3 as there is. obp, frustrates the pitcher, doesn't k or give in. Will eventually start setting pitchers up. Yeah, he's no power/Pujols, but who cares? We want Cq coming up with 1st and third anyway, and pitchers out of rhythm, looking at Cq and thinking fuck this.
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shoewizard · Posted: Thu Dec 07, 2006 8:07 am Post subject:

I like the synergy you describe. Laughing

shoewizard · Posted: Thu Dec 07, 2006 8:08 am Post subject:

I like the synergy you describe. Laughing

EvilJuan · Posted: Thu Dec 07, 2006 9:08 am Post subject:

TAP · Posted: Thu Dec 07, 2006 9:17 am Post subject:

Projekt · AAA Stud Joined: 11 Aug 2006 Posts: 72

I personally thought that the D-backs should have played Q, Young, Drew, ect. Much higher in the order last year. Every game BoMel had them (drew specifically) Batting at the bottom of the order.

TAP · Posted: Thu Dec 07, 2006 12:05 pm Post subject:

EvilJuan · Posted: Thu Dec 07, 2006 1:26 pm Post subject:

Now I can't find the link, but an article ran in the last few days (maybe at azcentral.com, but it isn't there now) which included a statement to the effect that Melvin was "on board" with the concept of building a roster and lineup that consists of young players.

Right.

If you believe that, there's a beautiful piece of property in northern Arizona I can sell you for a fraction of its actual value. OK, there's a degree of, uh, subsidence; but the views are, well, grand, if you know what I mean... Wink

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