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qudjy1 · Veteran Presence Joined: 10 Aug 2006 Posts: 1121

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2672610

Tucson DBacks Fan · MLB Rookie Joined: 13 Oct 2006 Posts: 208

So Colangelo sells out his interst in the Diamondbacks after the team is in a deep financial crisis, and now he wants to own a different team? This is very interesting. I thought he wanted to retire.

David B · Posted: Wed Nov 22, 2006 4:12 pm Post subject:

Colangelo grew up in Chicago and the Cubs were probably his boyhood team. I think we'd probably all like to own the team we followed when we were kids.

McCray · Posted: Wed Nov 22, 2006 4:58 pm Post subject:

people on the mlb board believe that if jerry does buy the cubs, it practically guarantees them a WS within five years. Shocked

i don't think they're too aware of the cub's situation.
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EvilJuan · Posted: Wed Nov 22, 2006 5:03 pm Post subject:

tmar · Veteran Presence Joined: 10 Aug 2006 Posts: 1184

I think if JC bought the Cubs he'd end up too highly leveraged from the bat and wouldn't be able to duplicate his AZ "success".

TAP · Posted: Wed Nov 22, 2006 10:08 pm Post subject:

When Jerry sold off his majority share of the Suns after having earlier done the same with the Diamondbacks, he made a statement something to the effect that it was time for him to retire and ensure that his family was set financially. It appeared to be a realization of his own mortality as he was dealing with cancer at the time.

Having apparently beaten the cancer, it's possible Jerry is ready to tackle life with a renewed vigor, and he may be pursuing both baseball and basketball ownership...

Tucson DBacks Fan · MLB Rookie Joined: 13 Oct 2006 Posts: 208

Jerry has a track record in baseball, and whether it is a good one is a matter of interpretation. He deserves credit, of course, for bringing Arizona a World Series title; but the team experienced severe financial problems in the process that are still hampering the team years after Jerry has moved on to other things. If he goes for a larger market team, he may not run into similar financial problems, but that is not a given. I also think he had a lot of good luck to win the World Series. Getting there wasn't all skill, but he did set up a great organization and align things right for a good try at the World Series. If he tries to win the World Series again with some five year plan ( or less years ), chances are he won't get the same breaks he had with the Diamondbacks. The odds are stacked against any team winning the World Series. He did a great job for the Diamondbacks; but when he left the organization, it was in the process on compiling one of the worst records in baseball history and was declining. That leaves a sour taste in my mouth when I consider the Coloangelo days of the Diamondbacks. I hope he has not set up a pattern of building a team and spending a lot of money for a chance of the title then bailing out with the team deep in debt, Jerry having the fun of seeing the team through it's title run and then selling the team and letting the new owners deal with a less exciting team and all the longterm financial problems he created.

shoewizard · Posted: Thu Nov 23, 2006 6:42 am Post subject:

The circumstances are very different of course. In fact they couldn't be more different. And most likely he will do some things differently. I am sure he is a very smart man, and smart people learn from their mistakes. As you say winning a world series is pretty hard, and the odds are stacked against any owner. So most likely we will see less extremes, both in success AND failure. Then again, it is the Cubs.....so who knows. Twisted Evil

baldmaga · Posted: Thu Nov 23, 2006 7:32 am Post subject:

Jerry Colangelo will not make the same mistakes twice. He is well aware of the mistake he made in Arizona, and is probably looking to take on a new team, and win another WS, and this time putting it into a position to win more for many years to come.

This is the guy who got baseball to expand to Arizona.

TAP · Posted: Thu Nov 23, 2006 8:48 am Post subject:

matt · Posted: Thu Nov 23, 2006 9:17 am Post subject:

This Thanksgiving I'm thankful that Bickley's latest piece wasn't so drama queenish.
http://www.azcentral.com/sports/columns/articles/1123bickley1123.html

David B · Posted: Thu Nov 23, 2006 10:22 am Post subject:

I think Colangelo felt he had to do things the way he did in Phoenix. Without the baseball tradition of a city like St Louis or Boston, I'm pretty sure he realized he didn't have the luxury of waiting on a farm system to develop talent and needed to make an impact immediately to attract and hold fans.

Tucson DBacks Fan · MLB Rookie Joined: 13 Oct 2006 Posts: 208

Tap, I enjoyed the World Series Championship and attended three of the games in Phoenix including the final game. I admire how successful Arizona was for its first five years. Now, however, are the dog days as we ride things out and wait for the financial situation to get better. I know we should be patient, but it's not easy sitting back and watching the other teams improve themselves hoping that your team can, too, using a lot less money. I like Josh Byrnes and think he'll make some good moves. I like the stockpile of young talent Rizzo et al put together. Good luck to Jerry Colangelo if he buys the Cubs. If so, I hope he is able to turn that team around.