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XB3
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| Yeah, but how often do softball players get called "Babes"? |
Pretty often in her case:
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| Maybe it wasn't the right time |
That's all I'm saying.
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dirtygary
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| Posted: Mon Aug 14, 2006 10:30 am Post subject: |
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At least Thom comes off as an intelligent person when you hear him call in to talk shows. He honestly sounds like a guy that is behind the youth movement.
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At least he's got that right. The guy knows baseball and how to run an organization, but he's so ...trained. And goody-goody. Refer to an earlier post about endearing, yet awful local baseball announcers.
Also, I remember when Thom B made the comment about "educating" the fans. Screw him!!! This is a baseball state, always has been, and we don't need some douchebag trying to teach us the intricacies of the game. Seems the ones needing the education are the ones that just moved here and know no more about baseball than how to put their Cubs hat on. Anybody that grew up in AZ played Little League. It's the rule. Our state colleges have several national championships, and have a ton more CWS appearances, and those teams were/are primarily made up of in-state players. It's like when Rick Reilly was here for the WS and he made some comment about whether he'd have to explain what the suicide squeeze is to people. It took about 4 years for me to start reading his column again.
But if you look at the fans in attendance, it's Ethel and Gertrude visiting from Sun City or some five year olds playing in the jungle gym, so it's not so far-fetched to assume that the audience knows dick about the game.
Anybody on board for designating the upper deck for families and seniors and leaving the lower bowl for the middle aged dudes that know how to get after players and umpires? And don't need explanation for a suicide squeeze.
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moviegeekjn
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| Posted: Mon Aug 14, 2006 10:34 am Post subject: |
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| dirtygary wrote: |
Anybody on board for designating the upper deck for families and seniors and leaving the lower bowl for the middle aged dudes that know how to get after players and umpires? And don't need explanation for a suicide squeeze. |
Watch the agism prejudice here... There ARE some senior citizens who have LONG followed baseball and passionately distain boneheaded plays and umpire calls.
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dirtygary
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dirtygary wrote:
Yeah, but how often do softball players get called "Babes"?
Pretty often in her case:
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Maybe it wasn't the right time
That's all I'm saying. |
I was talking about the ones other than Jenny. She gets it all the time, and is a royal bitch. She comes into Lexus in Tucson where my step-mom works and treats her, and everybody else, like shit.
The timing is up for debate, but Grace is cool because he screws up. I only wish I had caught the expletives last season.
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matt
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| Posted: Mon Aug 14, 2006 10:39 am Post subject: |
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| I'm sure plenty of them get called babes on a regular basis. A lot of them are just so hot. I watched one of their games and it was distracting me. |
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TAP
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| Posted: Mon Aug 14, 2006 10:46 am Post subject: |
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| The timing is up for debate, but Grace is cool because he screws up. I only wish I had caught the expletives last season. |
Grace is all right. Maybe I've just grown used to it, but he seems to have dropped much of the sophomoric behavior that many of us (myself included) are guilty of when just hanging out but doesn't always translate well in a broadcast.
And I gave him a hard time about yelling "root, root, root, for the Cubbies" on national TV during a game in which his employer the DBacks were playing against the Cubs, but we'll let that go as his tribute to his good friend Harry Caray.
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Dylan
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Well, I've been very hard on the broadcast booth and still don't agree with them about certain issues, but I understand the difficulty in their jobs and the fact that they do answer to people.
Charlie brings up a good point about it being tele-VISION. With TV, you don't need to describe the game as much as radio, because the TV lets you see what happened. So a TV announcer and color guy, instead of telling you whats happening, end up acting more like the guys sitting next to you at the park while you're both watching the game. I don't know if this is the "motivation" Thom and Mark have explicitly, but that's how it comes off.
So, the question is, are there more people who listen in to the broadcasts who would like to sit next to Thom and Mark at a game than who wouldn't. My guess is yes by a mile. Of course when I say this, I mean their on-air personalities only and because of that, they're gonna keep doing what they do.
My problems is that I wish they were slightly more like Shoe is when I go to ballgames with them. Shoe always picks out some people sitting around us to teach to. He's always looking to educate and he doesn't talk down to them. He explains the game the way he sees it. Of course, he doesn't have the pressure of people above him dictating his content and tone.
Anyways, you show OBP enough, people will learn. Hey it's just AVG with BBs added on!! |
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XB3
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| Posted: Mon Aug 14, 2006 11:00 am Post subject: |
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| She comes into Lexus in Tucson where my step-mom works and treats her, and everybody else, like shit. |
Maybe her Lexus is a piece of shit and she's "projecting." 
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stu
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Dylan,
My guess is that you could not last an inning sitting next to Brennaman in his announcer persona. The phony voice. The pontification about how RISP is the most important stat. (and then choosing A. Jones as his MVP). How wins are how you evaluate a pitcher. How you want to give up bases for outs. How RBI is a critical stat.
I was wrong. You wouldn't last a half inning.
I have no idea what people I don't know like. The people I know can't stand Thom. Grace is pretty well liked. Then again, I don't like reality shows, rap music, food eating contests, thyroids, brains, liver or Robert Mapplethorpe. I am not one who can judge the populous. |
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my2cents
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TOM TRABOR? You have got to be kidding.
The only way bringing him back would be a good thing,
was if the only other choice was Rod Allen - far and away the
worst announcer in history - even worse than Joe Morgan!
Brennaman and Grace are a good team, not as good as Thom and
Brenley, but good. And, I will take Joe Sr. any day, even with
the tobacco preaching.
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Dylan
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Dylan,
My guess is that you could not last an inning sitting next to Brennaman in his announcer persona. The phony voice. The pontification about how RISP is the most important stat. (and then choosing A. Jones as his MVP). How wins are how you evaluate a pitcher. How you want to give up bases for outs. How RBI is a critical stat.
I was wrong. You wouldn't last a half inning.
I have no idea what people I don't know like. The people I know can't stand Thom. Grace is pretty well liked. Then again, I don't like reality shows, rap music, food eating contests, thyroids, brains, liver or Robert Mapplethorpe. I am not one who can judge the populous. |
No stu, probably not. Then again, I'm hardly the norm.
Plus, considering Shoe warns me at the games to not talk down to our baseball neighbors, it seems I can be a bit prickly as well.
On-air Thom and myself would most likely not be good baseball neighbors.
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charlie
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| Term "babes" goes with Mark Grace's personality... just like when David Letterman uses the same term. Unless you want a host/broadcaster to eliminate their personality totally and be totally P.C., you're always going to have a few who are "offended." If Gracie were off mic, he'd probably tell those people to just "piss off." |
Ever wonder what Grace's wife thinks about the kind of crap he spouts on the air?
Frankly, IMO it would be better for the fans if Grace DID eliminate most of his current personality. I'd much prefer some nobody who would concentrate on the game rather than on how BIG players or fans are, or how much he can eat at one sitting, or how much of a big shot he can be by offering to buy trips to the concession stand for the fans, or how excited he is to go to parties with lots of "babes" in attendance, etc., you know, or fishing for compliments from Thom by downplaying something he did while an active player, juvenile crap like that.
He's terrible and often an embarrassment to the D'backs.
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EStreetMan
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Ever wonder what Grace's wife thinks about the kind of crap he spouts on the air? [/quote]
What wife? Gracie is trying to break the record for most exes with both me and Matt Williams tied for the lead....................
scott (I wished all my exes lived in Texas) |
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charlie
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Ever wonder what Grace's wife thinks about the kind of crap he spouts on the air? |
What wife? Gracie is trying to break the record for most exes with both me and Matt Williams tied for the lead....................
scott (I wished all my exes lived in Texas)
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He's divorced again? Didn't know that, not that I care, but it doesn't surprise me, given his "lovable personality".
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