Keep him, but don't hope for much--he won't improve
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Acquire a new 3Bman by trading Tracy
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Acquire a new 3Bman by free agency, move Tracy to LF
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Posted: Sun Oct 01, 2006 11:35 pm Post subject:
moviegeekjn wrote:
McCray wrote:
we talked about tracy tonight at the game. i think he's going to rebound offensively, and stay about the same or so defensively. probably a little bit better, but not much.
Tracy made a couple of good picks today at third.... but I swear it looked like he had his eyes closed when he caught those shots.
Fortunately he opened them before throwing to 1st.
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Posted: Mon Oct 02, 2006 12:00 am Post subject:
You know what's unbelievable, he probably had his best day at the plate all year. He was quiet, in control, on top of the ball. One of the swings was small, quick, and instinctive. Well if the season could go for another month, he'd probably hit 10 more homers. too bad he can't play in the fall league.
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You know what's unbelievable, he probably had his best day at the plate all year. He was quiet, in control, on top of the ball. One of the swings was small, quick, and instinctive. Well if the season could go for another month, he'd probably hit 10 more homers. too bad he can't play in the fall league.
Maybe the extra rest did him some good...
I'm going to hope that it's all his knee and it's corrected in the offseason and Chad Tracy re-emerges, but if Byrnes could trade him for pitching in the offseason, I wouldn't be disappointed.
I voted keep him and move him to left for a number of reasons. 1st, it'd be trading Tracy low rather than trading Byrnes high. 2nd, Salary, Byrnes will be more than Tracy from here on out. 3rd, Offensively, I think this year was an outlier for Byrnes and Tracy. 4th, Defensively, 1B and LF have to be Tracy's best positions, although he's not as good as Byrnes in LF - but we should be used to seeing a left fielder NEVER making a diving catch. But, Tracy is more flexible. Same with Scott Hairston. 5th, Tracy is a Diamondback. Byrnes is a stop-gap. Thank you for the great year Byrnes, but Tracy played in all the same places as these kids coming up, and should be the team leader, with Webb.
Last, off topic. Top of the ninth today and Counsell and Gonzo getting replaced. If Drew came in to replace Counsell, why didn't Chris Young come on to to replace Byrnes in Center, and have Byrnes move over to Left?
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Posted: Mon Oct 02, 2006 1:27 am Post subject:
Would someone please explain to me why on earth we'd want to move Tracy to left??? He doesn't have great range or speed, and he didn't do anything to suggest that he would be particularly successful in the outfield when he played out there. It seems like some of you are advocating moving him to left simply to get him away from third without trading him. But Hairston has more power than Tracy, and more speed. Byrnes might not have Tracy's offensive upside, but he'd be a lot better on defense in the outfield. Hell, Andy Green would be a better option in left than Tracy. You'd just be moving bad defense from 3B to LF, where instead of allowing infield singles, he'd be turning singles into doubles. We could trade Tracy, put Callaspo at third and Hairston/Byrnes in LF, and be far better off.
I'm not trying to be difficult here, but I don't see any upside to Tracy in left, especially with his bum knee (which might have a lot to do with his poor defense this year).
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Posted: Mon Oct 02, 2006 12:03 pm Post subject:
but we can't put callaspo at third. for a game here or there, it's great. good d, a few singles, but he doesn't have the power for third. tracy at least has the potential for sub-par power at third -- callaspo's power would be that of a counsell at 3b. can't do it for a season.
what makes callaspo's bat so groovin' is that it's that good of a bat at 2b or ss or utility. there, he's a plus bat. at third, he's a minus bat.
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Posted: Mon Oct 02, 2006 4:34 pm Post subject:
McCray wrote:
but we can't put callaspo at third. for a game here or there, it's great. good d, a few singles, but he doesn't have the power for third. tracy at least has the potential for sub-par power at third -- callaspo's power would be that of a counsell at 3b. can't do it for a season.
what makes callaspo's bat so groovin' is that it's that good of a bat at 2b or ss or utility. there, he's a plus bat. at third, he's a minus bat.
Okay, fine--AC doesn't have enough power for third. I won't argue that. But it still doesn't explain why we should consider Tracy for LF.
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Posted: Mon Oct 02, 2006 4:49 pm Post subject:
I couldn't care less where the power comes from. It could come from the 9-hole, for all I care. Just so long as it's there. AC at 3B doesn't matter as much as how his bat fits into a well-rounded lineup.
Quick, and without looking it up, tell me the Twins starting 3B'man. I though so.
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Posted: Mon Oct 02, 2006 8:40 pm Post subject:
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I couldn't care less where the power comes from. It could come from the 9-hole, for all I care. Just so long as it's there. AC at 3B doesn't matter as much as how his bat fits into a well-rounded lineup.
Quick, and without looking it up, tell me the Twins starting 3B'man. I though so.
Wish I was here earlier...it probably seems like I had to look up Nick Punto.
Yeah, I've changed. Gotta keep Tracy at 3B for 1 more year, if only to let him get his offensive #'s up so we're not trading so low. LF is an option if we were willing to put him out at right last year. Also, if CJ gets figured out and has a Travis Lee slump, Tracy could be moved back to first - or something like a trade of Tracy and Jackson for Dontrelle Willis, and we slide Callaspo to 3B and bring up Chris Carter at 1B. Not something that I'm presently advocating, but something that could become a consideration at a future point in time given certain developments.
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Posted: Wed Oct 04, 2006 6:00 pm Post subject:
Jack Magruder / East Valley Tribune today wrote:
The Diamondbacks have a lot to do this offseason, but at least none of it will be surgical. MRI exams on third baseman Chad Tracy and pitcher Claudio Vargas last Thursday were negative, leaving team physician Dr. Michael Lee with no scheduled appointments this winter, not even a minor procedure.
“We came out healthy,” Lee said.
Tracy was bothered by left knee tendinitis since spring training but played through it, hitting .281 with 41 doubles and 20 home runs after a two-homer finale Sunday. His 80 RBIs were a career high.
Tracy said rest and deep tissue massage will alleviate the problem in the short term, and that he plans to be proactive in 2007.
“Pre-hab, instead of having to rehab,” Tracy said. “I’m going to have to keep on top of it and make sure to keep the tendons in the right alignment.”
He said the tendons above the kneecap tightened this year, causing the ones below the knee to get longer, creating a painful imbalance.
Although Tracy did not want to use the injury as an excuse, he said the pain was constant and most noticeable when he attempted to generate power to his back side while hitting or when he twisted and pushed off on throws to first base. Thirteen of his 25 errors were throwing errors.
“It was like a scab, you reopen it every day,” Tracy said.
“When you open up your front side (to throw), all you can think about is the pain that is coming” after the throw.
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