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shoewizard
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People seem to not like it when I counsel tempered expecations. Remember the firestorm I caused over Upton back in June?  |
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moviegeekjn
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| shoewizard wrote: |
| People seem to not like it when I counsel tempered expecations. Remember the firestorm I caused over Upton back in June? |
Shoe... the dream stealer 
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| shoewizard wrote: |
| People seem to not like it when I counsel tempered expecations. Remember the firestorm I caused over Upton back in June? |
i cried, and then fell into a month-long depression.
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moviegeekjn
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i cried, and then fell into a month-long depression. |
even your car was affected too!
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shoewizard
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| that wasn't a depression, it was an impact crater in the emergency lane of the 202 |
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levski
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| shoewizard wrote: |
| People seem to not like it when I counsel tempered expecations. Remember the firestorm I caused over Upton back in June? |
oh please... can't anyone here take a long term view on any prospect?
btw, I do remember the firestorm you caused over chris young last year
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Robert S.
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| Posted: Fri Sep 22, 2006 6:28 pm Post subject: |
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| IMO, the only question mark is Drew. I'm sure Quentin and Young will take their walks just fine. I couldn't care less about strikeouts as long as a player takes his walks and has power (read: not '06 Tracy). |
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shoewizard
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| Posted: Fri Sep 22, 2006 7:52 pm Post subject: |
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| levski wrote: |
| shoewizard wrote: |
| People seem to not like it when I counsel tempered expecations. Remember the firestorm I caused over Upton back in June? |
oh please... can't anyone here take a long term view on any prospect?
btw, I do remember the firestorm you caused over chris young last year
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Dude....all I said was SHOW me, and stop guaranteeing he is going to be the next A-Rod-Griffey. For a crowd that is supposed to be into objective analysis, and performance data, some of you seem awful willing to ignore the playing record and just go by the scouts when it's conveinent
Upton will be fine. I just don't know yet if he is going to be a hall of famer.
As for CHris Young.....I always liked him dude, I just didn't see his bb/k ratio developing THIS quickly......you did. Kudos.
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levski
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shoewiz, I'm just teasing you... you get so touchy--and I haven't even brought up the shawn green bet yet 
anyhow, I am a big fan of statistics, sure. I am just A LOT more willing to listen to what scouts have to say about guys who are still very young or very raw or still in the low minors where stats aren't always the end of it all...
and upton will be just fine. he will go to at least half a dozen all star games in a sedona red uniform...
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foulpole
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| Posted: Sat Sep 23, 2006 9:50 am Post subject: Re: Plate Discipline |
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I hope these kids show some improvement in this area over the next 10 games. But it may be too soon. Next years adjustment could be tougher than we are expecting if this area does not improve.
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Player At bats walks K's
Drew 178 13 41
Young 60 6 11
Quentin 131 12 27
Totals 369 31 79 |
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Q has, at times, been a little to aggressive but other times has shown patience at the plate.
For me Young is too new to rate in total. I have not seen enough of him to give me any concerns.
As far as Drew goes...“Tell your statistics, to shut up.”
Drew is doing a fine job and consistently taking the outside stuff to LF. It seems that his weakness so far has been the movement on the ML breaking stuff that seems to account for most of his Ks. He's missing them by a smaller margin as time goes by.
I'm more concerned about his ability to stay healthy.
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