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shoewizard
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 Posted: Tue Dec 05, 2006 4:56 pm Post subject: Pitch location and Brandon Webb's GB Tendency |
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Interesting look at how pitch location correlates, (or doesn't) to Webb's GB percentage.
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levski
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| Posted: Tue Dec 05, 2006 4:59 pm Post subject: Re: Pitch location and Brandon Webb's GB Tendency |
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| shoewizard wrote: |
Interesting look at how pitch location correlates, (or doesn't) to Webb's GB percentage.
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so, if i'm reading that right, then, there are certain locations which, across all pitchers, tend to yield more groundballs. but with extreme flyball or extreme groundball guys, those tendancies don't really predict jack?
i'd be really interested about the plane of approach as the ball crosses the plate -- is webb's ball just dropping more at that crucial moment than zito's?
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| Posted: Tue Dec 05, 2006 5:18 pm Post subject: |
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Just remember this when someone repeats the mantra
"He's getting hit because he's not keeping the ball down" or something like that. |
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| Posted: Tue Dec 05, 2006 7:33 pm Post subject: |
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| "He's getting hit because he's not keeping the ball down" or something like that. |
It's actually as simple, if you get a chance to sit behind home-plate during one of his games, because tv, doesn't really show how meaty it actually looks to the hitter, before it starts it decent, it just looks like a hangar, and it disappears. It's not even thrown very hard, just a perfect speed.
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| I know what you mean. I have sat behind home for a number of his starts, and you can see the hitters just screw themselves into the ground sometimes overswinging because they think it's there.......and then it's not. |
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| shoewizard wrote: |
| I know what you mean. I have sat behind home for a number of his starts, and you can see the hitters just screw themselves into the ground sometimes overswinging because they think it's there.......and then it's not. |
yeah, just to expound on it, a little more, its not hat he's not getting it down, it just not moving late, when it gets hit. he generally keeps it simple, with right handed batters, and throws his vanilla pitch, because he doesn't have to do anything else. Mix a curve, a fastball sure against right handers, but those are simply show me's. his cutter is what is taking him to the next level against lefthanders, when his other variations of the sinker aren't working, against them. Wouldn't surprise if he went sub 2.25 for a couple of dominant years if he has the d behind him.
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