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levski · Veteran Presence Joined: 10 Aug 2006 Posts: 1763

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B. O. N. D. · Posted: Thu Dec 07, 2006 6:11 pm Post subject:

Just a couple tidbits; I'm in a hurry:

shoewizard · Posted: Thu Dec 07, 2006 7:00 pm Post subject:

Translation: He is being shopped, and if they find no takers, of course he is in the mix for a roster spot...what are they gonna do? Release the PCL offensive player of the year?

qudjy1 · Veteran Presence Joined: 10 Aug 2006 Posts: 1121

That makes me sick. I just dont understand why they wont give him a chance.

rgndvo · MLB Rookie Joined: 07 Dec 2006 Posts: 131

nice to see that not everyone here is on the "hairston is just a AAAA" player bandwagon. Hairston needs to be given a real shot.

levski · Veteran Presence Joined: 10 Aug 2006 Posts: 1763

TSWINDERS · Journeyman Joined: 05 Sep 2006 Posts: 427

I wanted to see the Hall's answer to Hairston. Glad to see he tried to answer it.

shoewizard · Posted: Fri Dec 08, 2006 5:37 am Post subject:

tmar · Veteran Presence Joined: 10 Aug 2006 Posts: 1184

The only solice I find in this whole thing is that E Byrnes will be gone by this time next year.

This whole Hairston/Byrnes thing has been like a great shit stain that the FO has proudly shown off to the viewing public expecting us to think on it as art. I feel insulted that they think I'll accept this as a positive step for the team.

Like I said on the Gagne thread, I don't care what they'd do with the money, hell turn it into management bonuses, but choosing Byrnes over Hairston makes my stomach curl and does nothing to make me think there's anything intelligent coming out of the FO.

tmar · Veteran Presence Joined: 10 Aug 2006 Posts: 1184

I was thinking of a stock analogy while on my morning walk and this Byrnes/Hairston thing is like selling a stock with potential for below net book value and keeping a stock that is at 20 times earnings while most in it's sector are trading at 10 times earnings.

Oden · Posted: Fri Dec 08, 2006 7:35 am Post subject:

What makes a shit stain great?

I don't pin the jerking around of Hairston on the current regime. He was getting jerked around 2 or 3 years ago. The old team just wouldn't admit that Hairston couldn't play second base. They should have moved him to the OF much sooner.

And I can't hold it against the team when they've made way for so many other young players. They obviously have their priorities set and Hairston just wasn't at the top of the list. He was stuck behind a, cough, local institution. There really was no place for him to play. I have faith that they'll make it work for Hairston - whether that is here or someplace else.

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shoewizard · Posted: Fri Dec 08, 2006 8:06 am Post subject:

tmar · Veteran Presence Joined: 10 Aug 2006 Posts: 1184

The whole thing, along with what will likely happen to a few of our pitching prospects, seems like such bad baseball that the FO should be putting more effort into it.

We don't have the money to be major players in the FA market now or over the next 3 years. Ok, I'm totally cool with that but shouldn't we be then trying to get the most out of our current crops. Shouldn't a cash strapped team be thinking about $$/production and building the most trade value into what we have?

For the Hairston case, let's assume he plays acceptable D in left and smacks in 25HR next year, not a large stretch. What will he be worth next year in a trade? How much more will we get than this year?

In Nipperts case <or whomever else you'd like to see in the rotation at #4/5 vs a trade> what if he could pitch 180 innings this year with a 4.60 ERA next year, again not far fetched, how much more would he be worth than now?

I guess what I'm saying is what we have now could likely be of similar quality next year to what we are looking to trade true value for now. My guess is they'd trade Hairston & Nippert today for less than either will be worth next year.

I know, preaching to the choir.

/steps off soapbox

Tucson DBacks Fan · MLB Rookie Joined: 13 Oct 2006 Posts: 208

I suspect that Byrnes and his staff are really willing to stand pat, and don't think they are going to give away the farm in any trades. However, if something comes along between now and April that will improve the team, they should still be willing to make some deals. The Diamondbacks have so many good prospects that its not just older guys blocking prospects but prospects blocking each other. If there are some areas where the team has exceptional depth and other area where more effective talent would be helpful ( such as in pitching ), why not make a trade. Sure the Diamondbacks will be giving up good players with potential, but theyr're not going to get anything good in return for nothing.

EvilJuan · Posted: Fri Dec 08, 2006 8:44 am Post subject: