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 Posted: Thu Oct 26, 2006 9:42 pm Post subject: Bochy to become Giants manager |
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With Bruce Bochy set to go to Japan on Monday to manage a group of major leaguers in an exhibition tour, the Giants had to move fast to pry him away from the Padres.
That's apparently just what they did. The San Jose Mercury News reported Thursday that discussions late into the night had resulted in a deal between San Francisco and Bochy, who managed the San Diego Padres to first place in the National League West last season.
The Giants scheduled a news conference for Friday to announce the deal. The Mercury News reported that Bochy will receive a contract of at least three years for more than $2 million per season.
Teams are not allowed to make major announcements during the World Series, but the newspaper reported Major League Baseball gave the Giants permission because Bochy is doing the league a favor. He agreed to replace Terry Francona as manager on the Japan tour when the Red Sox manager withdrew due to illness.
Bochy was the only candidate with major league managerial experience, something Giants general manager Brian Sabean said would be preferred. The Mercury News reported that Mets third-base coach Manny Acta, Angels pitching coach Bud Black and Giants bench coach Ron Wotus were the other finalists for the job.
The Giants received permission from the Padres on Wednesday to talk to Bochy, who traveled to the Bay Area earlier Thursday to meet with Sabean and other team officials about becoming Felipe Alou's successor.
"If he's available and that's a reality, we'd have to go forward and interview the man," Giants vice president of player personnel Dick Tidrow said earlier Thursday.
Besides travel plans, the deal had to come together quickly because the Giants had only a seven-day window in which to come to agreement with Bochy because he is employed by another team. Bochy, who has one year left on his contract, and Sabean already had an informal conversation about the job.
Earlier in the day, Padres general manager Kevin Towers already was preparing for Bochy's possible departure.
"We certainly have to do our due diligence to come up with a list of candidates ourselves, a group of people we would probably interview if Bruce ends up leaving," Towers said in a phone interview. "I would imagine we'd know something by the weekend, because it probably would be hard to negotiate with Bruce going to Japan."
Bochy, 51, who just finished his 12th season as the Padres' manager, has guided San Diego to back-to-back NL West titles and is the winningest manager in franchise history. He has spent the last 24 years in the organization, dating to his playing days.
He is due to make $1.9 million in guaranteed money in 2007 and would be San Francisco's most expensive choice among the club's top candidates. But Bochy's experience and familiarity with the division certainly made him an immediate favorite.
San Francisco, which has 11 potential free agents including Barry Bonds, did not renew the 71-year-old Alou's contract after the Giants finished their second straight losing season and third in a row out of the playoffs.
Black is expected to interview with the Oakland Athletics about their managerial opening and could become a candidate to replace Bochy. |
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| Kinda off topic but also related, have you noticed how some people like to think that Backman would have been so great for our team? Do you think any of them noticed that nobody else has hired him yet? |
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| Posted: Thu Oct 26, 2006 11:01 pm Post subject: |
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Excellent point, matt.
Apparently, the lime is working! The orbital craft have been unable to prevent you from making these discoveries by disrupting your brain waves...
Unless your avatar is a Kilrathi advance scout...
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| Posted: Thu Oct 26, 2006 11:12 pm Post subject: |
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| matt wrote: |
| Kinda off topic but also related, have you noticed how some people like to think that Backman would have been so great for our team? Do you think any of them noticed that nobody else has hired him yet? |
Not to wander further off-topic, but Jamie Quirk is happy that Wally Backman backfired on Arizona.
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What's the closest you think you've come to getting one? (major league manager offer)
Jamie Quirk: It's hard to say. A few years ago when I talked with Arizona I felt really good about it, I heard people say I interviewed really well for it. But I didn't get it. It doesn't mean they didn't like what I had to say, they just went another route. But I don't know if I was one of the finalists or not. They actually chose Wally Backman that year.
That didn't work out so well. (Backman was fired four days after he was hired when it was revealed he had been arrested twice.)
Jamie Quirk: Not quite. I actually felt good about that, that I had gone through an interview and they picked a guy who had all kinds of problems. Maybe they didn't do their homework. |
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| Posted: Thu Oct 26, 2006 11:56 pm Post subject: |
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| matt wrote: |
| Kinda off topic but also related, have you noticed how some people like to think that Backman would have been so great for our team? Do you think any of them noticed that nobody else has hired him yet? |
Backman had good baseball instincts but he was like a ticking time bomb. When we would close the stadium in Birmingham at 1:00 AM he would come stumbling out of clubhouse with his bottle of booze stinking from here to high heaven. And nobody dare get in his way when he was liquored up.
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| Posted: Thu Oct 26, 2006 11:58 pm Post subject: |
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| And nobody dare get in his way when he was liquored up. |
especially his wife
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Bochy's a good manager. I can't believe the Pads wanted to get rid of him with all the success he's had there. It'll be interesting to see who they hire now to replace him.
I hate to say it, but I think Bochy makes the Giants better. For the next few years they should be in a rebuilding phase and he'll do a good job bringing along their youngsters.
Now back to the Dbacks. I'm still not a BoMel fan and I cannot believe we gave him an extension last year. If we had a veteran laced team like 2001 he might be okay. But with all the young talent we have BoMel just isn't the right guy for our situation. Hopefully he proves us all wrong, but I'm not counting on it. The more I read about Chip Hale the more I wouldn't mind seeing him take over. It's a moot point now, but it will be interesting to see if BoMel's managerial style changes any this year. |
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| TAP wrote: |
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| And nobody dare get in his way when he was liquored up. |
especially his wife
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| matt wrote: |
| Kinda off topic but also related, have you noticed how some people like to think that Backman would have been so great for our team? Do you think any of them noticed that nobody else has hired him yet? |
Backman had good baseball instincts but he was like a ticking time bomb. When we would close the stadium in Birmingham at 1:00 AM he would come stumbling out of clubhouse with his bottle of booze stinking from here to high heaven. And nobody dare get in his way when he was liquored up.
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Backmen would of been great, not to besmirch Bomel. Bobby Cox, Billy Martin, couldn't be hired today, for the Dbacks.
Btw, Why don't you mention some of the good things about Backmen? A lot of your Sidewinder buddies felt challenged by him and respected him didn't they? He was very well respected at Birmingham too wasn't he by the players?
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| Posted: Fri Oct 27, 2006 10:07 am Post subject: |
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| Btw, Why don't you mention some of the good things about Backmen? |
He did....he said Backman had great baseball instincts. Did you miss that part?
I don't think anyone disputes that Backman had talent as a manager, especially of young players, and knack for the job. But his inner demons may just have got the better of him.
I don't know though......all I know is what I read in the papers, and I am sure those are incomplete accounts.
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Weren't the Padres players playing for Bochy's job this season?
I love knowing that those teams are going to hate each other. And with the already bred hate between the Giants and the Dodgers, the D-Backs only need to worry about the Rockies...LOL!! |
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| Posted: Fri Oct 27, 2006 10:26 am Post subject: |
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| Btw, Why don't you mention some of the good things about Backmen? |
He did....he said Backman had great baseball instincts. Did you miss that part?
I don't think anyone disputes that Backman had talent as a manager, especially of young players, and knack for the job. But his inner demons may just have got the better of him.
I don't know though......all I know is what I read in the papers, and I am sure those are incomplete accounts.
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I didn't miss that part, but its obvious the tone on Backmen was that he was an evil wife beating drunk, and it gets reinforced more on the negative, imho. That's why fear and negativity sell better than the positive. If you get a chance to ask your favorite player CoJack what he thought of him. That's all I'm going to say on the Wally saga. TSSidewinder, could have a field day with the negative on Cox.
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Wonder what happened that the Pads let him go, or he didn't want to go back. Bochy's a great manager.
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| Posted: Fri Oct 27, 2006 10:50 am Post subject: |
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| Dangerfield wrote: |
| TSWINDERS wrote: |
| matt wrote: |
| Kinda off topic but also related, have you noticed how some people like to think that Backman would have been so great for our team? Do you think any of them noticed that nobody else has hired him yet? |
Backman had good baseball instincts but he was like a ticking time bomb. When we would close the stadium in Birmingham at 1:00 AM he would come stumbling out of clubhouse with his bottle of booze stinking from here to high heaven. And nobody dare get in his way when he was liquored up.
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Backmen would of been great, not to besmirch Brenly. Bobby Cox, Billy Martin, couldn't be hired today, for the Dbacks.
Btw, Why don't you mention some of the good things about Backmen? A lot of your Sidewinder buddies felt challenged by him and respected him didn't they? He was very well respected at Birmingham too wasn't he by the players?
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Don't get me wrong I have great respect for how he managed. In fact our Barons teams were picked to finsh last and 9th and Backman turned one into a champion the other went to the finals. He was always respected by his players because of his managing style he always expected his players to give 110%. The only problem I had with him was that he was a time bomb waiting to go off. I do hear that he has cleaned himself up which I am glad to hear because I would like to see him manage again.
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| Catharsis wrote: |
Weren't the Padres players playing for Bochy's job this season?
I love knowing that those teams are going to hate each other. And with the already bred hate between the Giants and the Dodgers, the D-Backs only need to worry about the Rockies...LOL!! |
I have always felt like the Rockies should be the natural rival of the D-backs, since we are both young expansion teams, our cities are the two leading cities of the intermountain region, and the California teams all have each other to hate. The Rockies would probably have to be good once in a while for it to develop, however...
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backman really got himself cleaned up? wow, that's pretty impressive. do you think any team would be willing to give him another shot, though? i guess what i'm asking is, does the bad PR from before outweigh the prospect of a guy getting his life back in order? because i really think that most people deserve that second chance, but i don't really see a team risking the PR hit.
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| McCray wrote: |
| backman really got himself cleaned up? wow, that's pretty impressive. do you think any team would be willing to give him another shot, though? i guess what i'm asking is, does the bad PR from before outweigh the prospect of a guy getting his life back in order? because i really think that most people deserve that second chance, but i don't really see a team risking the PR hit. |
I would the guy knows how to manage. From the last thing I seen about him on the net says he is hoping someone will give him a job even in the low minor leagues. I don't see the harm in allowing him to get a job in the low minors and prove that he is cleaned up.
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