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| And two pop ups and a double play to boot. |
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| And two pop ups and a double play to boot. |
Wasn't it 3 pop ups?
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| And two pop ups and a double play to boot. |
Wasn't it 3 pop ups?
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No, I think he struck out before he could pop up a third time.
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whatuwant
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he is the captain
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| he is the captain |
If I performed as poor is Byrnes has in my profession (when it comes to the clutch), no kid is passing the AIMS.
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levski
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| Catharsis wrote: |
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| And two pop ups and a double play to boot. |
Wasn't it 3 pop ups?
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No, I think he struck out before he could pop up a third time.
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What, not even ONE productive out from him tonight? Geez...
That's a lot of money for a whole lotta non-productive outs...
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Catharsis
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| levski wrote: |
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| levski wrote: |
| Catharsis wrote: |
| And two pop ups and a double play to boot. |
Wasn't it 3 pop ups?
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No, I think he struck out before he could pop up a third time.
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What, not even ONE productive out from him tonight? Geez...
That's a lot of money for a whole lotta non-productive outs...
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Don't worry, when the actually contract kicks in, that's when he'll start getting those productive outs. 
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levski
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| Catharsis wrote: |
| levski wrote: |
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| levski wrote: |
| Catharsis wrote: |
| And two pop ups and a double play to boot. |
Wasn't it 3 pop ups?
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No, I think he struck out before he could pop up a third time.
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What, not even ONE productive out from him tonight? Geez...
That's a lot of money for a whole lotta non-productive outs...
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Don't worry, when the actually contract kicks in, that's when he'll start getting those productive outs.
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I imagine the majority of games in 2008 will go like this:
pop up, flair single, strike out, pop up
We'll be on CarGo watch sometime around the all star break
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| levski wrote: |
I imagine the majority of games in 2008 will go like this:
pop up, flair single, strike out, pop up
We'll be on CarGo watch sometime around the all star break |
Unless he's traded first...  
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| Catharsis wrote: |
| whatuwant wrote: |
| he is the captain |
If I performed as poor is Byrnes has in my profession (when it comes to the clutch), no kid is passing the AIMS.
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imagine if you were only successful 3 out of 10 times 
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Irish27
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| levski wrote: |
| Catharsis wrote: |
| levski wrote: |
| Catharsis wrote: |
| levski wrote: |
| Catharsis wrote: |
| And two pop ups and a double play to boot. |
Wasn't it 3 pop ups?
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No, I think he struck out before he could pop up a third time.
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What, not even ONE productive out from him tonight? Geez...
That's a lot of money for a whole lotta non-productive outs...
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Don't worry, when the actually contract kicks in, that's when he'll start getting those productive outs.
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I imagine the majority of games in 2008 will go like this:
pop up, flair single, strike out, pop up
We'll be on CarGo watch sometime around the all star break
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Don't forget a thrown bat or helmet.
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Catharsis
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| Irish27 wrote: |
| levski wrote: |
| Catharsis wrote: |
| levski wrote: |
| Catharsis wrote: |
| levski wrote: |
| Catharsis wrote: |
| And two pop ups and a double play to boot. |
Wasn't it 3 pop ups?
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No, I think he struck out before he could pop up a third time.
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What, not even ONE productive out from him tonight? Geez...
That's a lot of money for a whole lotta non-productive outs...
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Don't worry, when the actually contract kicks in, that's when he'll start getting those productive outs.
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I imagine the majority of games in 2008 will go like this:
pop up, flair single, strike out, pop up
We'll be on CarGo watch sometime around the all star break
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Don't forget a thrown bat or helmet.
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But then again, once every couple games you'll get to see a somersault throw and grit.
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Through 6 playoff games:
.240 BA
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More walk, less talk.
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A poster named TheCoach over at the MLB board said (paraphrasing here) that Byrnes pops up so much you'd think he'd worked for Orville Redenbacher. 
I think next year I'm going to get some LF bleacher seats and spend the game chanting "Or-ville!"
probably not--but I sure feel like it right now!
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NJ-DBACKS-FAN
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| Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2007 4:36 am Post subject: |
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| Catharsis wrote: |
| Irish27 wrote: |
| levski wrote: |
| Catharsis wrote: |
| levski wrote: |
| Catharsis wrote: |
| levski wrote: |
| Catharsis wrote: |
| And two pop ups and a double play to boot. |
Wasn't it 3 pop ups?
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No, I think he struck out before he could pop up a third time.
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What, not even ONE productive out from him tonight? Geez...
That's a lot of money for a whole lotta non-productive outs...
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Don't worry, when the actually contract kicks in, that's when he'll start getting those productive outs.
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I imagine the majority of games in 2008 will go like this:
pop up, flair single, strike out, pop up
We'll be on CarGo watch sometime around the all star break
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Don't forget a thrown bat or helmet.
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But then again, once every couple games you'll get to see a somersault throw and grit.
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hey at least he has time to call fans to buy tix to watch him pop up and have some of the worst AB ive seen this post season
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We coulda added EB's pop off remarks to This Thread
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matt
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| DesertKnight wrote: |
A poster named TheCoach over at the MLB board said (paraphrasing here) that Byrnes pops up so much you'd think he'd worked for Orville Redenbacher.
I think next year I'm going to get some LF bleacher seats and spend the game chanting "Or-ville!"
probably not--but I sure feel like it right now!
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That's a really good one.
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What was Byrnes supposed to say after this was in the paper:
Clint Hurdle:
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Ryan Spillborghs:
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The Rockies with one exception had been talking some shit after 2 games.
Todd Helton in a post game interview said:
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http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/recap?gameId=271012129
Byrnes said what needed to be said.
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If just one guy screams "Orville" from LF next season, people will think he's crazy....
If two guys scream "Orville"... they'll think they're both faggots...
But if three.... just three... people scream "Orville" next season from LF... they'll think it's a movement... and that's what it is!
Can you imagine 3 people screaming "Orville"... ?
Call it the EB pop-up massacre movement... to get him to make some changes!
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| Byrnes said what needed to be said. |
As I said (in the GameDay thread yesterday, iirc), I don't fault Byrnes for what he said as he tried to rally the Diamondbacks. His performance at the plate, however, is another story altogether -- and for that, he is at fault.
There's a place for leaders who give stirring speeches to rally the troops; but an even greater place for those who lead by example...
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Byrnes said what needed to be said.
As I said (in the GameDay thread yesterday, iirc), I don't fault Byrnes for what he said as he tried to rally the Diamondbacks. His performance at the plate, however, is another story altogether -- and for that, he is at fault.
There's a place for leaders who give stirring speeches to rally the troops; but an even greater place for those who lead by example... |
He hit a line drive that the pitcher's glove got in the way off. If Fogg had to move his glove, he probably would have missed it.
NOBODY is carrying this club right now. That's the problem. Clark has been a choker, Reynolds has choked, Ojeda has choked. Byrnes has choked. Snyder has choked. Upton has choked.
Byrnes didn't give up a 3 run homer to Yorvit Torrealba, a catcher the Giants no longer needed. Livan Hernandez should piss you off more than anyone right now.
Byrnes is too easy of a target here.
Here's another way to look at yesterday's game:
Down by a run, with his #8 hitter approaching the plate, and with runners on 1st and 3rd with no outs Bob Melvin elected to have Ojeda swing away, rather than squeeze a run home to tie the game. Had he taken the run, and had things remained the way they later played out, Melvin may have opted to turn the game over to his pen during the bottom of the 6th prior to Torrealba's game winning 3-run homer. A better manager might have won yesterday's game 2-1 instead of losing it 4-1!
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| NOBODY is carrying this club right now. That's the problem. |
Small sample size deluxe, but here's the line for those with at least 5 AB's through the first 3 NLCS games:
Montero
.400/.400/.400 - .800
Young
.222/.500/.222 - .722
Drew
.333/.385/.333 - .718
Clark
.250/.333/.375 - .708
Snyder
.250/.333/.375 - .708
Reynolds
.167/.231/.417 - .647
Byrnes
.231/.231/.308 - .538
Jackson
.200/.200/.200 - .400
Ojeda
.167/.167/.167 - .333
Salazar
.167/.167/.167 - .333
Upton
.000/.143/.000 - .143
Compound that with the fact that Arizona has had 35 baserunners in these 3 games yet scored only 4 runs, and one can quickly see why this team has not deserved to win any of these NLCS games. If the story remains the same tonight it will be time to empty the lockers for the year.
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EvilJuan
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| He hit a line drive that the pitcher's glove got in the way off. If Fogg had to move his glove, he probably would have missed it. |
That's baseball. It happens. At that point, Byrnes was 0-1. That AB is not counted against him -- at least, not in my book.
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| NOBODY is carrying this club right now. That's the problem. Clark has been a choker, Reynolds has choked, Ojeda has choked. Byrnes has choked. Snyder has choked. Upton has choked. |
Clark is at the end of his career, and costs, what, a million or so? Reynolds is a rookie, up from AA for less than a full season. Upton is also a rookie, up from a few months in AA for what, six weeks now? Ojeda is a utility/journeyman. Snyder is a "veteran," but really only coming into his own this season. Byrnes will become the $30M dollar man, and already is the "face of the franchise" in the eyes of joe average fan and Jeff Moorad. If he isn't expected to carry the team, to whom should we look? Granted, no one player should reasonably be expected to "carry" a team all by himself -- but I don't think it's unreasonable to expect this veteran player, coming into a huge contract, to lead by example.
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| Byrnes didn't give up a 3 run homer to Yorvit Torrealba, a catcher the Giants no longer needed. Livan Hernandez should <expletive deleted> you off more than anyone right now. |
Hernandez wasn't the one who spoke to the press. Byrnes did. As for my opinion of Livan Hernandez, read what I had to say in the GameDay thread yesterday. Or, here's a summary: "Don't let the door hit you on the way out."
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| Byrnes is too easy of a target here. |
He made himself a target when he went public. As I said, I don't fault him for what he said to try to rally the team; but talk is cheap. What do you have if the words aren't backed up by deeds?
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Here's another way to look at yesterday's game:
Down by a run, with his #8 hitter approaching the plate, and with runners on 1st and 3rd with no outs Bob Melvin elected to have Ojeda swing away, rather than squeeze a run home to tie the game. Had he taken the run, and had things remained the way they later played out, Melvin may have opted to turn the game over to his pen during the bottom of the 6th prior to Torrealba's game winning 3-run homer. A better manager might have won yesterday's game 2-1 instead of losing it 4-1! |
Inasmuch as the Diamondbacks haven't offered a squeeze bunt all season, what makes you think it would have been successful yesterday? Inasmuch as Ojeda had been among those hitting the ball during the post-season, why, exactly, would you want to take the bat out of the hands of one of the guys who had been among the contributors offensively? I'm not defending Melvin's decision -- but it's hardly as "cut-and-dried" as you are suggesting.
One final point: The "absence" of Eric Byrnes extends beyond yesterday's game; and, inasmuch as the hope some of us held at the start of the season -- that he would depart via free agency -- has been dashed by the inconceivable action of Jeff Moorad, we have to live with this situation for the next three years, with all its ramifications. If you're going to be the one out front -- and making public statements, to boot -- you can't escape the scrutiny that inevitably follows when the deeds of the day make the bold words hollow...
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Byrnes is an assclown, pure and simple. He hasn't walked the talk for the past couple of months (nor do his career numbers suggest he would)...it's insanity to think a leopard can change his spots (thanks, Jeff!).
Livan pitched an excellent game, even allowing for the brain fart to Torrealba. You can't expect a pitcher to never make a mistake and when the offense is non-existent, that's exactly what is being expected. That kind of pressure can lead to meltdowns, etc.
There's enough blame to go around, though, with most lying at the feet of the incredible disappearing offense and some managerial missteps. Can we win this series? Probably not. Can we win a game or two? Maybe.
Bottomline, Pythagoras is a bitch that is coming back to bite us in the ass! The playoffs are won on good pitching and good defense, but a little offense is required and we really haven't had a decent offense all season...no surprise there. |
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