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NJ-DBACKS-FAN

Yesterdays loss hurt....and looking at the rest of the month the team has a 9 game road trip, HOU, COL, PITT and the teams on this trip are not world beaters right now. After the trip we have COL and HOU back home than a trip to PHILLY:

bottom line is I know any road trip is never easy but if one had to take a 9 game roadie, other than a long flight to PITT (my heart bleeds) one could not ask for a more favorable games over next 19.

as for June:

OUCH 2 trips to NY and the G-spots and Boston to the Chase sammiched in the middle over a 2 week period! closing with the doggers and the g-spots again to close June.....again OUCH

IMO from 5/11 to 5/30 is the time to make the move and get some breathing room in the W/L colums with a hard june ahead....
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shoewizard · Posted: Thu May 10, 2007 3:27 pm Post subject:

Well, at least the Dodgers and Padres both lost today. They are just 1 1/2 games behind the Dodgers, and alone in 2nd place as of this writing. (If the Giants beat Colorado they'll be tied)

Lets hope Webby gets the road trip off on the right foot tmw.
Webb has a 1.78 ERA in 5 starts vs. the Astros in his career.

Hock · September Call-Up Joined: 11 Aug 2006 Posts: 85

They can't win if they can't score.

I put my worries on lack of offense. The D, both fielding and pitching, don't mean anything if we don't start running some laps.

baldmaga · Posted: Thu May 10, 2007 3:52 pm Post subject:

I'll be at the game Sunday, hopefully we are working on a two game win streak, and Douggy D can go the distance.
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NJ-DBACKS-FAN · Posted: Mon May 14, 2007 5:20 am Post subject:

not off to a good start... Evil or Very Mad

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baldmaga · Posted: Mon May 14, 2007 11:50 am Post subject:

good thing I didn't make it to the game Sunday
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foulpole · Hall of Famer Joined: 10 Aug 2006 Posts: 4089

moviegeekjn · Posted: Mon May 14, 2007 9:16 pm Post subject:

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shoewizard · Posted: Mon May 14, 2007 11:59 pm Post subject:

Scoring more runs than your oponnent is what wins championships.

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shoewizard · Posted: Tue May 15, 2007 12:04 am Post subject:

yes, you are correct.

And runs are the currency of wins and losses.

foulpole · Hall of Famer Joined: 10 Aug 2006 Posts: 4089

So if you lose one game 11 to 0 and win 10 games 2-1 then you suck?

shoewizard · Posted: Tue May 15, 2007 12:09 am Post subject:

yeah, that happens alot

foulpole · Hall of Famer Joined: 10 Aug 2006 Posts: 4089

How many 1 run games have we won/lost this year? I don't know. I'm just asking.

shoewizard · Posted: Tue May 15, 2007 12:18 am Post subject:

I think they are 10-6 in one run ballgames.

It doesn't matter, you are getting off on a tangent.

You need to look no further than the 2005 team to see what happens when a team runs up a lucky record early in the season despite being outscored by their opponents.

Over the long haul of a 162 game season, it is very rare for a team to make the playoffs when they score less runs then their opponents.

In fact, I invite you to do the research.

Go look up and tell me how many teams have been outscored on the season, yet still made the playoffs?

Robert S. · Hall of Famer Joined: 10 Aug 2006 Posts: 2957

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NJ-DBACKS-FAN · Posted: Tue May 15, 2007 4:36 am Post subject:

imo.....we dont score some runs, we will waste alot of good pitching and then the pitchers will stat to get bitter in the lockerroom.....fingers will start to be pointed (in not already)

that would be complete disaster!
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Dylan · Journeyman Joined: 11 Aug 2006 Posts: 418

foulpole · Hall of Famer Joined: 10 Aug 2006 Posts: 4089

Hitters do slump. That's reality. Pitching and defense gets you through those periods. That's what has carried our squad so far this year.

Over a 162 game season I do believe that you generally have to have more runs scored than runs allowed. However, we are far short of 162 games now and our pitching and D has carried us through the battings slumps so far.

Let's hope that the bats heat up soon but I'm far from writing our chances at a playoff berth off at this point. Mainly because we have, and I do feel will continue to have, very solid pitching and ( with a couple exceptions ) solid D.

We'll have some hitting slumps along the way but this one has been pretty bad.

Edit: Bam Bam, O-Dawg, Trace and ( on a part time basis ) Clark are excluded from my slumping comments.

matt · Hall of Famer Joined: 10 Aug 2006 Posts: 3657

It just amazes me how people can be so blind to the truth. The level of pitching from these guys is not sustainable. I like DD. I really do. But he is NOT a 156 ERA+ guy. Pena, Lyon, and Slaten won't maintain the ~300 ERA+ that they have right now. The pitching and defense line is bullshit. There is no fucking way in the world this team will stay in contention if they can't start scoring runs.

Need anything else? We have the 4th highest BB total in the NL and the 3rd highest HR total in the NL.

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matt · Hall of Famer Joined: 10 Aug 2006 Posts: 3657

Statistical BS is what I'd call that last post of yours. You are in complete denial. DD historically gives up 1 HR/10 innings. Right now he's at 1 per 23 innings. After moving to a pitcher's park. His BB rate isn't that much higher than it has been historically and his K rate is similar. His H/9 is also higher than normal for him. Also, consider the fact that 1/3 of the runs he's given up are unearned. Do the freaking math, he's up for regression.

The same applies to Livan. His HR rate is completely unsustainable.

I'm not saying that they are going to suck, just that they are going to revert to the league-average. That's not a disaster on a team that can hit. Having league average pitching from your 3 and 4 starters would normally be pretty kick ass.

Interesting that you completely ignored the fact that our pen is playing way over our heads. Bottom line is that this team needs to start hitting right fucking now or they are in serious trouble.

shoewizard · Posted: Wed May 16, 2007 7:13 am Post subject:

Livan hasn't give up less than 25 homers in a season in over 5 years. And prior to joining the D backs, he was pitching his home games in pitchers parks that are very tough to home in.

I HAVE been watching the games, and I have seen ALOT of hard hit balls right at people, and alot of deep flys to the warning track that just missed having enough to get over the wall.

Livan's HR rate is a fluke. It's definitely going to continue to increase. Hopefully his walk rate is a fluke too though. He's never walked more batters than he struck out.

But again, I HAVE been watching the games, and it's pretty clear that Livan can't muster anything more than an 83 MPH fastball, and he does not have pinpoint control and the ability to hit a corner with any pitch at any time. He deserves alot of credit for getting what he is getting out of whatever stuff he has left.

But in just one outing his ERA jumped to 4.41

I am pretty sure it will be closer to 5 than it will be to 4 at the end of the season.

I am more optimistic about Davis' ability to give this team league average ERA, perhaps even a bit better, but of course he is not going to keep his ERA under 3.00 all season.

The flip side is that RJ's ERA should continue to drop if he does not experience too much trouble with his back. Sure that was a struggling Rockies lineup out there last night, but RJ is looking like a good bet to make Levski my daddy.

Hopefully RJ's improvement will offset Livan's continued decline.

Dangerfield · Posted: Wed May 16, 2007 9:42 am Post subject:

Livian, again is knuckleball type pitcher, who will go through some bad innings, he throws 83, and comes back at 61. sub out two 5 run innings, and his era is 2.7. He's 6/8 for quality starts. His gb/fb ratio has been outstanding this year.

DD-He's a 6 inning pitcher. Can't argue with his results so far, and up to last year, where he played on the worst defensive team in bb, he was coming into his. I don't see that much of a regression coming.

Webby-will be Webby

Michah- has been a real surprise so far, and has looked real good. Has a big advantage the first time around since he throw's strikes with movement.

Rj-pure filth yesterday. His arm angle, you tell me if the slider, chnge-up, 92-94 mph fastball is coming.
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