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qudjy1
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 Posted: Mon Aug 28, 2006 9:18 pm Post subject: Davanon done for year |
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| Read it on the ESPN scroll... ankle surgery... |
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How does that impact FO off-season decisions? |
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qudjy1
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Dave Roberts is a FA??? IS that a better option??? Sorry Jeff... i really want to support you on this... but, its about making the right business decision...
edit: fuck... that just sucks... |
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| Posted: Mon Aug 28, 2006 9:31 pm Post subject: |
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| XB3 wrote: |
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It undoubtedly makes them more complicated.
On the other hand, Hairston's stock might have just gone up in value...
About the worst outcome would be a decision to bring Gonzo back to play LF... 
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| Posted: Mon Aug 28, 2006 9:37 pm Post subject: |
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Dave Roberts is a FA??? IS that a better option??? Sorry Jeff... i really want to support you on this... but, its about making the right business decision...
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what are you going to do with roberts, use him as Moorad's mini-me?
roberts is old, overrated, and some stupid team like the cubs will give him far too much money for far too many years to be the jackrabbit in the outfield. i have no problems with davanon exercising his option to come back in 07.
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Davanon leads the team in OBP. He is the perfect platoon partner for Byrnes in LF. If they don't bring back Gonzo, I am sure they will keep Byrnes...but if you keep Byrnes, you need Davanon.
That kinda sucks for Scotty Hairston though. Who knows.....they'll figure something out. |
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| DaVanon is a great 4th OFer; he can cover all OF positions and packs enough punch to give him a reasonable number of at bats... and he can walk. It sucks that he got hurt, but now there's an excellent chance he'll pick up his option for next year, and he won't cost the Dbacks nearly that much... |
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shoewizard
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His option is based on days on active roster. If I am reading correctly, he had over 120 days but less than 150 days on the active roster, so I think he gets 900K if he exercises his option
Jeff DaVanon of
1 year/$0.525M (2006), plus 2007 option
signed as a free agent 2/06
price of 2007 player option based on active days on 2006 Major League roster:
$0.7M option with 90 days
$0.9M option with 120 days
$1.1M option with 150 days
$1.25M option with 180 days |
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EvilJuan
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I'd bring him back for $900K a year.
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| I'd bring him back for $900K a year. |
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better yet
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Totally wrong usage of the phrase but it's fun
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damn you, fp. i was gonna use that last one.
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/going to hell for that one
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levski
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that didn't load. not a shocker...
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This one is for 007....
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* Gotta give Shatner his props (he IS God !) |
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qudjy1
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what are you going to do with roberts, use him as Moorad's mini-me?
roberts is old, overrated, and some stupid team like the cubs will give him far too much money for far too many years to be the jackrabbit in the outfield. i have no problems with davanon exercising his option to come back in 07. |
Well... obviously, you dont agree, but i was thinking he would be used the same way we could use davanon. thier stats are basically identical, other than slugging. Roberts does steal more bases which could make up for some of that difference, and he could play left and CF. Roberts is 2 years older than davanon.
Now the part about overpaying for him might be absolutely correct. Im not saying he should be offered alot of $, as he only made 2M this year. I was just thinking it could be explored... thats it... if someone offers him 5M a year... forget it... but what if 5M for 2 years? Still too much?
DO we know if Davanon will be able to walk next year? Will his performance be affected? Will he be able to play CF in the future? It sounds like he will be fine, but ankle injuries are tough...
Before the injury, i was 100% in support of picking up his option... now, i think other options at least need to be explored... Just my opinion...
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/players/profile?statsId=6305
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/players/profile?statsId=6355
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qudjy1
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Maybe roberts isnt the best choice... There are other guys around who wont be coming off ankle surgery...
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/players/profile?statsId=5823
Im not a doctor, so if somebody tells me the prognosis for full recovery is very good, then fine, i am all for davanon... |
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| I think Roberts is interesting for a 1 year deal not exceeding $2.5M. The OF should have descent power between Q, Young, and Byrnes. Roberts might not be as fast next year but he has a 90% SB rate and it would still be good enough. Having someone who can fly like that would be a hell of an asset. |
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levski
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what are you going to do with roberts, use him as Moorad's mini-me?
roberts is old, overrated, and some stupid team like the cubs will give him far too much money for far too many years to be the jackrabbit in the outfield. i have no problems with davanon exercising his option to come back in 07. |
Well... obviously, you dont agree, but i was thinking he would be used the same way we could use davanon. thier stats are basically identical, other than slugging. Roberts does steal more bases which could make up for some of that difference, and he could play left and CF. Roberts is 2 years older than davanon.
Now the part about overpaying for him might be absolutely correct. Im not saying he should be offered alot of $, as he only made 2M this year. I was just thinking it could be explored... thats it... if someone offers him 5M a year... forget it... but what if 5M for 2 years? Still too much?
DO we know if Davanon will be able to walk next year? Will his performance be affected? Will he be able to play CF in the future? It sounds like he will be fine, but ankle injuries are tough...
Before the injury, i was 100% in support of picking up his option... now, i think other options at least need to be explored... Just my opinion...
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/players/profile?statsId=6305
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/players/profile?statsId=6355
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Roberts at any amount will cost a lot more than DaVanon at 900K. Trust me. And Roberts will seek a starting gig somewhere--and plenty of dumb teams will give it to him. And dude, Roberts is ancient. I wouldn't touch the dude even if he passed out drunk on my front stoop...
And it's DaVanon's option, not the team's.
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PHOENIX -- A split tendon in his left ankle spelled the end of outfielder Jeff DaVanon's season, but nothing can dampen the way the veteran has felt about his first season with the Diamondbacks.
"I called this the nicest team in baseball," said DaVanon. "Everyone's overly nice. I can't say anything bad about my teammates this year. I've had a lot of fun."
No date had been scheduled yet for the surgery, though DaVanon said they were going to try to get it done as soon as possible. Dr. Phil Kwong, whose patients have included Angels outfielders Garret Anderson and Tim Salmon, will perform the surgery.
"He's a guy with the Angels, and I've worked with him in the past, so that's why I chose to go out there," said DaVanon, who is expected to be 100 percent for Spring Training.
DaVanon was signed to a one-year contract last season that includes a player option for 2007, which DaVanon sounded almost certain he would exercise. Based on active days on the roster this year, the option for next season is for $1.25 million.
With Chris Young the odds on favorite to be the starting center fielder next year, DaVanon could team with Eric Byrnes -- if Byrnes is brought back and Luis Gonzalez is not -- to form a left-field platoon similar to what happened the first part of this year in center. The fact that Carlos Quentin, Young and Byrnes are all right-handed hitters would seem to leave a niche for the switch-hitting DaVanon.
"I think, from what I've heard, what the possible plan would be, I think it would be a good fit," he said. "I think it will be a little better fit next year than this year just because Shawn Green being here, he took up a lot of playing time, and he's left-handed, so it's not like they're really going to substitute him for me. Hopefully I'll have a couple of starts here and there."
While DaVanon acknowledged that he would like to have played more, he credited manager Bob Melvin with letting him know when he would play.
"Bob has been a very good communicator with me, that's so important for a player," he said. |
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shoewizard
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| Posted: Tue Aug 29, 2006 10:54 pm Post subject: |
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Well...Cotts must have it wrong then, because that figure is not the same as what they have.
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Jeff DaVanon of
1 year/$0.525M (2006), plus 2007 option
signed as a free agent 2/06
price of 2007 player option based on active days on 2006 Major League roster:
$0.7M option with 90 days
$0.9M option with 120 days
$1.1M option with 150 days
$1.25M option with 180 days
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He went on the DL in Mid August, and is not coming back, so for sure he has less than 150 days on the active roster. The only way he gets 1.25 million, again according to Cotts info, is with 180 days, i.e. the entire season...on the active roster.
So either the website story is wrong or Cotts is wrong.
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