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FatLeprechaun · A-Ball Kid Joined: 25 Dec 2006 Posts: 18

He won't retire, and unless Boston extends him before the season starts he promises to test the free agent market.

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2749469

Dangerfield · Posted: Wed Jan 31, 2007 12:29 pm Post subject:

Can't imagine how good his year may have been, last year in the nl, with the normal parameters of a team that could score and play defense behind him.

http://www.baseball-reference.com/pi/gl.cgi?n1=schilcu01&t=p&year=2006
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levski · Veteran Presence Joined: 10 Aug 2006 Posts: 1618

tmar · Veteran Presence Joined: 10 Aug 2006 Posts: 1124

I can't see the Red Sox not signing him for 08 <unless their ears are tired>.

For 13MM he's a bargain.

diamondbacker · Posted: Wed Jan 31, 2007 3:44 pm Post subject:

If we let go of Hernandez, then yes, it's good to sign Schilling. If not, then:

1. We block a kid "EdGon, EnGon, Eveland, etc.) from starting
2. No payroll room.

But seriously,
Webb
Johnson
Schilling
Davis
Hernandez/EdGon

Can you say contender?
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FatLeprechaun · A-Ball Kid Joined: 25 Dec 2006 Posts: 18

diamondbacker · Posted: Wed Jan 31, 2007 3:50 pm Post subject:

But this time, we have a good #4 and #5.

diamondbacker · Posted: Wed Jan 31, 2007 3:50 pm Post subject:

2003 - RJ, Schilling, Webb, Batista, Dessens
2008? - Webb, RJ, Schilling, Davis, Hernandez/EdGon

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diamondbacker · Posted: Wed Jan 31, 2007 4:30 pm Post subject:

Oooh Oooh! And we can get Mauer for Hammock, Cabrera for Tracy, Beltran for Byrnes, Pujols for Jackson, and Carpenter for Cruz!

Please tell me that was sarcasm Lev. We'd have to give up so much to get Zambrano and Santana - prospect and $ wise
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TAP · Posted: Wed Jan 31, 2007 4:38 pm Post subject:

diamondbacker · Posted: Wed Jan 31, 2007 4:56 pm Post subject:

yeah, because i don't think he's ever been right before

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It's odd how you can be so sure he's joking, but he's not, or vice versa.
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tmar · Veteran Presence Joined: 10 Aug 2006 Posts: 1124

If Schilling isn't in the Red Sox 08 plans for some reason <they're sick of listening to him>, I wonder if they'd try to trade him to Philly as he'd likely be willing to extend there as well.

diamondbacker · Posted: Wed Jan 31, 2007 5:29 pm Post subject:

Wonder what the BoSox would want in return - Garcia? Lieber? A prospect or two?
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tmar · Veteran Presence Joined: 10 Aug 2006 Posts: 1124

Schilling & Ramirez + cash for Lieber & Howard

Great deal for the Sox, win now deal for the Phillies.

tmar · Veteran Presence Joined: 10 Aug 2006 Posts: 1124

Just to go totally crazy on the concept. How about the following:

Schilling, Lowell & Ramirez + 28MM

for

Lieber, Burrell & Howard

Still works better for Boston but doesn't totally suck for Phillies <although I'd never let Howard go if I were them>.

baldmaga · Posted: Wed Jan 31, 2007 11:21 pm Post subject:

When I heard Schill was coming back for 08, the first thing I thought of was him wanting to join Randy for what could potentially be both of their final years.

B. O. N. D. · Posted: Thu Feb 01, 2007 12:13 am Post subject:

But if Schilling came back and they failed it would completely and utterly suck more than I can even express, hence the big letters in pink.
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tmar · Veteran Presence Joined: 10 Aug 2006 Posts: 1124

I would imagine when RJ came back there was a conversation similar to the following:

RJ- "You know, I'd love to come back assuming of course you never try to get Schilling back here, ha ha"

pause, JB thinking 'would that ever happen? naah'

JB- "No, we'd never do that, ha ha"

TAP · Posted: Thu Feb 01, 2007 1:35 pm Post subject:

Curt will pitch in Boston in '07 and '08, and if elected in 2013 will enter the HOF with a Red Sox cap. Curt's HOF stats are borderline based on the 2 stats most important to HOF voters: Wins and ERA. Rolling Eyes

He has 207 wins now and by the end of '08 should easily be at 230+. His win total will be fine. ERA will be his problem. Of the 58 pitchers currently in the HOF, only 8 had career ERA's higher than Curt's 3.44.

His 2001 WS co-MVP and the 2004 WS bloody sock legend along with his 3000+ career K's should pave the way in.

tmar · Veteran Presence Joined: 10 Aug 2006 Posts: 1124

I would agree that Schilling should enter as a Sock, and have not dillusions that Boston would be stupid enough to let him slip by. If I was Philly, however, I'd be making a few phone calls about now.

moviegeekjn · Posted: Thu Feb 01, 2007 2:55 pm Post subject:

tmar · Veteran Presence Joined: 10 Aug 2006 Posts: 1124

I'm still psychologically scarred from that deal and can't bring myself to remember any details.

Aaron · Posted: Fri Feb 02, 2007 9:16 am Post subject:

I'd love to see it happen but won't hold my breath. Here's a good read...

shoewizard · Posted: Fri Feb 02, 2007 10:44 am Post subject:

Kudos to Shaughnessy for printing all of the interview, (or so it seems)

Curt gets in some good shots there.