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Stuart
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Posted: Sat Oct 21, 2006 3:13 pm Post subject: The World Series thread! |
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GO CARDS
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moviegeekjn
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Posted: Sat Oct 21, 2006 3:18 pm Post subject: |
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Cheers for that first post!!! |
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TAP
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Posted: Sat Oct 21, 2006 3:30 pm Post subject: Re: The World Series thread! |
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Stuart wrote: |
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...because 24 years between wins is way too long. Tame the Tigers!
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Stuart
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Posted: Sat Oct 21, 2006 3:33 pm Post subject: |
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...and bring that ridiculously ugly trophy back to the NL
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moviegeekjn
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Posted: Sat Oct 21, 2006 3:36 pm Post subject: Re: The World Series thread! |
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TAP wrote: |
...because 24 years between wins is way too long. Tame the Tigers! |
Xactly! Those Tigers just won a series only 22 years ago, so it's time for the Cards *
* Besides, a WS victory would complete TLR's mission (and he might then free himself up to pursue other tasks)
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TAP
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Posted: Sat Oct 21, 2006 5:53 pm Post subject: |
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Puuuuuuuuuujols with the 2-run bomb. 4-1 Cardinals! |
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Posted: Sat Oct 21, 2006 6:45 pm Post subject: |
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Pooh holes getting it done. The guy is amazing even when hurt. He just scored another run.
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TAP
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Posted: Sat Oct 21, 2006 7:24 pm Post subject: |
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Anybody else notice the 7th inning stretch American Idol commercial that was just on? The scoresheet in their graphic said Mets vs. Tigers. Some ignorant doofus at FOX assumed the Mets were going to be in the series and FOX was too careless to notice their error and fix it before telecasting it to an international audience. |
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David B
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Posted: Sat Oct 21, 2006 7:47 pm Post subject: Re: The World Series thread! |
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TAP wrote: |
Stuart wrote: |
GO CARDS |
...because 24 years between wins is way too long. Tame the Tigers!
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Was that really necessary, TAP?
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shoewizard
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Posted: Sat Oct 21, 2006 8:40 pm Post subject: |
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I watched part of tonights game from a bowling alley....LOL
Havn't bowled in 4 years, but rolled a 185 tonight.... |
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TAP
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Posted: Sat Oct 21, 2006 8:43 pm Post subject: Re: The World Series thread! |
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David B wrote: |
TAP wrote: |
...because 24 years between wins is way too long. |
Was that really necessary, TAP?
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I lob you a softball and you take 4 hours to hit it over the wall?
Bad TAP, bad bad TAP
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David B
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Posted: Sat Oct 21, 2006 9:06 pm Post subject: |
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Hey TAP, I was actually watching the game...until Brandon Inge managed to single handedly make two errors and turn off 10 million television sets on one play. |
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TAP
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Posted: Sat Oct 21, 2006 9:36 pm Post subject: |
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David B wrote: |
Hey TAP, I was actually watching the game...until Brandon Inge managed to single handedly make two errors and turn off 10 million television sets on one play. |
Two errors on Inge and an obstruction on Inge for tripping Rolen rounding 3rd, all from one ground ball to Inge at 3rd. 2 runs scored and Encarnacion standing on 2nd base from one bonehead play.
Anyone know Inge's address so we can send him a thank you bouquet.
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Posted: Sat Oct 21, 2006 10:27 pm Post subject: |
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wow, nothing beats running out of your painkillers while at work being yelled at by your boss, with a migraine and a thrown out back, all while the tigers revert to their normal sucky selves on a tv in the background.
yep, today sucked. oh, and i had money on the tigers to sweep.
fuck st louis.
(sorry for grouchiness, just a really shitty day and my team playing really, well, shittily will do that to you.)
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Posted: Sat Oct 21, 2006 10:29 pm Post subject: |
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McCray wrote: |
wow, nothing beats running out of your painkillers while at work being yelled at by your boss, with a migraine and a thrown out back, all while the tigers revert to their normal sucky selves on a tv in the background.
yep, today sucked. oh, and i had money on the tigers to sweep.
fuck st louis.
(sorry for grouchiness, just a really shitty day and my team playing really, well, shittily will do that to you.) |
Tell your boss he's a retard. It always works for me. Of course it helps when you are your boss.
Better day tomorrow.
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Posted: Sat Oct 21, 2006 10:36 pm Post subject: |
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he is a retard. all the other people who work with me are great nice people. but he's the guy who signs my check, and he's the only asshole there.
goddammit.
well, tomorrow i'll get lit up at jim's house while we all watch the tigers stomp the crap outta st louis. that'll be nice.
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Posted: Mon Oct 23, 2006 6:25 am Post subject: |
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JAY MARIOTTI ASKS WHY KENNY ROGERS WASN'T EJECTED FOR CHEATING
...and I wondered the same thing during last night's game. |
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Posted: Mon Oct 23, 2006 10:57 am Post subject: |
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okay a couple things:
first, as a former docterer of baseballs, the thumb isn't really where you put your pine tar reserve. you put that on the glove or on your belt. sometimes, sometimes, on a wrist band, but not usually.
second, it is my understanding (and i'd love to be proven wrong here if i am) that there's a chain of events here. 1: the batter notices weird movement. 2: batter complains to manager. 3: manager complains to umpire, and, IIRC, must request that the pitcher be checked for substance. 4: if the ump feels there's a reasonable case, he checks the pitcher. 5: evidence of the usage of the illegal substance must be recorded -- if it's a corked bat, the ump needs a shard of the bat, if it's pinetar, the ump needs the pitcher's glove with the substance on it. 6: the ump ejects the player, and has the evidence brought to the umpire's locker area and secured.
the kenny fucking rogers thing either didn't seem that important to larussa or to the ump. and, if kenny fucking rogers has thrown his 1,746 scoreless innings this postseason or whatever, and he's doing it because he's got pinetar on his thumb, then larussa and torre and macha should be up in arms about this, screaming to the rooftops. that they aren't makes me think this is all a big bunch of nothing.
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Posted: Mon Oct 23, 2006 11:01 am Post subject: |
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I wonder how long it will take for people to go back and study the game tapes of the previous games and look for the same "dirt" |
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Catharsis
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Posted: Mon Oct 23, 2006 11:06 am Post subject: |
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TAP wrote: |
JAY MARIOTTI ASKS WHY KENNY ROGERS WASN'T EJECTED FOR CHEATING
...and I wondered the same thing during last night's game. |
Baseball is getting do F#$%ed up! When will it end? With Bud Selig poor and humbled.
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Posted: Mon Oct 23, 2006 11:13 am Post subject: |
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shoewizard wrote: |
I wonder how long it will take for people to go back and study the game tapes of the previous games and look for the same "dirt" |
they already did, cowboy. pics and text courtesy of espn.
first, rogers' hand from last night:
and a comparison of game 3 alcs vs last night:
and, the pertinant area of da rulez:
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The controversy surrounding the brown substance spotted on Kenny Rogers' pitching hand during the first inning Sunday night is addressed in Rule 8.02 of the Official Baseball Rules.
According to rule 8.02(a)(2), (4) and (5), the pitcher shall not:
(2) expectorate on the ball, either hand or his glove;
(4) apply a foreign substance of any kind to the ball; [or]
(5) deface the ball in any manner.
According to the penalties set forth in the Official Baseball Rules, "For violation of any part of Rules 8.02(a)(2) through (6): (a) The pitcher shall be ejected immediately from the game and shall be suspended automatically for 10 games."
However, at the bottom of the 'penalties' section is the following disclaimer:
Rules 8.02(a)(2) through 8.02(a)(6) Comment: If a pitcher violates either Rule 8.02(a)(2) or Rule 8.02(a)(3) and, in the judgment of the umpire, the pitcher did not intend, by his act, to alter the characteristics of a pitched ball, then the umpire may, in his discretion, warn the pitcher in lieu of applying the penalty.
In this case, it would seem, the umpires felt that Rogers "did not intend, by his act, to alter the characteristics of a pitched ball."
-- ESPN.com |
i'll be the first guy to admit i think kenny rogers is sort of a cock. not my favorite tiger, not by a long shot. but look at the placement on his hands -- when i gunk up a ball, i use my fingertips to get the gunk laid into the stitches -- that's how you make it dip and dive.
i really doubt he was trying to cheat (altering the flight of the ball), mainly because of the placement of his gunk. but i do think he was trying to hold the ball tighter -- that's what the placement suggests to me.
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Posted: Mon Oct 23, 2006 11:14 am Post subject: |
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Dude....who cares how YOU gunk up the ball....
he has the shit on his hands in the exact same spot in Game 3 of the ALCS, according to the pictures you posted.....
Coincidence? |
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Posted: Mon Oct 23, 2006 11:36 am Post subject: |
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That's kinda what I was thinking. It had to be some pine tar or something, cuz you heard the way he answered the Q's about the cold after the game - something about the ball being like a rock and not being able to get a grip on it.
I don't think he was trying to juice the ball, but there sure as hell was a substance that was causing dirt to stick to that part of his hand. But if the Cards weren't protesting then, I could see the umpires telling him to wash it off, and moving on.
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Posted: Mon Oct 23, 2006 11:48 am Post subject: |
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yeah, i think it was to hold the ball. and, tlr doesn't strike me as the kind of guy to just let something go if he thought rogers was cheating.
also, it hasn't seemed like there's more break to his pitches now than previously this season. i really really don't think he's junking the ball. i think he's trying to grip it. and it isn't as if the ball looked any different in flight after he washed his hands, either.
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Posted: Mon Oct 23, 2006 11:50 am Post subject: |
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On a human level, I'd bet that TLR didn't want to have a real cow over the issue... with Jim Leyland in the opposing dugout. Had it been another manager that he doesn't regard highly, he might have been more adamant. |
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