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Post subject: 2015 Draft
Posted: Sun Sep 07, 2014 7:03 am
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D backs as of right now would have teh #4pick. They are 1 game ahead of the Rockies who would have the number 3 pick if the season ended today. Texas looks like a lock for number 1 pick overall. Astros get #2 pick because they didn't sign Aiken. If the D Backs get "hot" they could play themselves out of a top 4pick, but it's unlikely they end up with lower than the 6th overall pick.
Standings thru September 6th
Here are 3rd overall picks of the last 20 years that have played in the majors (ranked by WAR)
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Year Tm Name Pos WAR G AB HR BA OPS G W L ERA WHIP SV
2006 Devil Rays Evan Longoria(minors) 3B 38.9 940 3529 180 .271 .846
1997 Angels Troy Glaus(minors) 3B 37.9 1537 5410 320 .254 .847
1995 Mariners Jose Cruz(minors) OF 19.5 1388 4724 204 .247 .783
1994 Padres Dustin Hermanson(minors) RHP 11.3 358 322 2 .093 .278 357 73 78 4.21 1.36 56
2010 Orioles Manny Machado(minors) SS 10.3 289 1185 33 .278 .747
1998 Cubs Corey Patterson(minors) OF 9.6 1230 4171 118 .252 .691
1996 Cardinals Braden Looper(minors) RHP 8.8 679 186 0 .215 .517 670 72 65 4.15 1.37 103
2008 Royals Eric Hosmer(minors) 1B 4.8 548 2108 56 .274 .741
2011 Diamondbacks Trevor Bauer(minors) RHP 0.9 30 7 0 .000 .000 30 7 11 4.42 1.48 0
2004 Mets Philip Humber(minors) RHP 0.9 97 11 0 .091 .182 97 16 23 5.31 1.42 0
2012 Mariners Mike Zunino(minors) C 0.8 164 557 25 .203 .646
2005 Mariners Jeff Clement(minors) C -1.2 152 385 14 .218 .648
2000 Cubs Luis Montanez(minors) SS -1.2 129 305 5 .223 .586
2007 Cubs Josh Vitters(minors) 3B -1.3 36 99 2 .121 .395
1999 Tigers Eric Munson(minors) C -1.4 361 1056 49 .214 .683
2001 Devil Rays Dewon Brazelton(minors) RHP -3.0 63 6 0 .167 .500 63 8 25 6.38 1.68 0
Provided by Baseball-Reference.com: View Original Table
Generated 9/7/2014.
Here are number 2 overall picks of the last 20 years that have played in the majors
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Year Tm Name Pos WAR G AB HR BA OPS G W L ERA WHIP SV
1997 Phillies J.D. Drew(minors) OF 44.9 1566 5173 242 .278 .873
2004 Tigers Justin Verlander(minors) RHP 40.8 294 32 0 .063 .125 294 149 89 3.54 1.21 0
1999 Marlins Josh Beckett(minors) RHP 36.2 335 289 3 .142 .390 335 138 106 3.88 1.23 0
2005 Royals Alex Gordon(minors) 3B 27.8 1011 3823 121 .270 .784
1998 Athletics Mark Mulder(minors) LHP 20.0 205 111 1 .162 .435 205 103 60 4.18 1.34 0
2001 Cubs Mark Prior(minors) RHP 16.5 108 204 1 .201 .496 106 42 29 3.51 1.23 0
2002 Devil Rays B.J. Upton(minors) SS 12.9 1220 4439 137 .244 .724
2003 Brewers Rickie Weeks(minors) 2B 12.1 1127 4030 146 .248 .769
2009 Mariners Dustin Ackley(minors) CF 8.5 486 1778 33 .247 .677
1996 Twins Travis Lee(minors) 1B 7.2 1099 3740 115 .256 .745
2008 Pirates Pedro Alvarez(minors) 3B 5.4 592 2063 104 .235 .742
2007 Royals Mike Moustakas(minors) SS 4.4 493 1762 52 .236 .671
1995 Padres Ben Davis(minors) C 2.9 486 1512 38 .237 .672
2000 Twins Adam Johnson(minors) RHP -1.1 9 2 0 .000 .000 9 1 3 10.25 2.05 0
2006 Rockies Greg Reynolds(minors) RHP -1.6 33 30 0 .167 .460 33 6 11 7.01 1.65 0
Provided by Baseball-Reference.com: View Original Table
Generated 9/7/2014.
And here are the number 4 overall picks of the last 20 years that have played in the majors. Pretty steep dropoff from number 2 and number 3.
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Year Tm Name Pos WAR G AB HR BA OPS G W L ERA WHIP SV
2005 Nationals Ryan Zimmerman(minors) 3B 34.5 1190 4624 184 .286 .828
1995 Cubs Kerry Wood(minors) RHP 27.7 449 346 7 .171 .444 446 86 75 3.67 1.27 63
2001 Phillies Gavin Floyd(minors) RHP 15.6 208 74 0 .068 .160 208 72 72 4.40 1.33 0
1996 Blue Jays Billy Koch(minors) RHP 5.6 379 2 0 .000 .000 379 29 25 3.89 1.40 163
1997 Giants Jason Grilli(minors) RHP 4.6 438 15 1 .200 .600 438 22 31 4.10 1.37 50
2004 Devil Rays Jeff Niemann(minors) RHP 4.1 97 13 0 .077 .154 97 40 26 4.08 1.29 0
2003 Padres Tim Stauffer(minors) RHP 4.1 178 138 0 .152 .354 177 32 34 3.86 1.31 0
2008 Orioles Brian Matusz(minors) LHP 2.2 208 8 0 .125 .250 208 26 37 4.98 1.46 0
2006 Pirates Brad Lincoln(minors) RHP 0.5 101 38 0 .237 .520 99 9 11 4.74 1.39 1
2002 Orioles Adam Loewen(minors) LHP 0.5 49 34 1 .176 .576 35 8 8 5.38 1.64 0
2012 Orioles Kevin Gausman(minors) RHP 0.4 37 4 0 .000 .000 37 10 12 4.44 1.34 0
2009 Pirates Tony Sanchez(minors) C 0.4 45 132 4 .258 .687
2007 Pirates Daniel Moskos(minors) LHP 0.2 31 0 0 31 1 1 2.96 1.56 0
2011 Orioles Dylan Bundy(minors) RHP 0.1 2 0 0 2 0 0 0.00 1.20 0
1998 Royals Jeff Austin(minors) RHP -0.7 38 8 0 .125 .250 38 2 3 6.75 1.68 0
2010 Royals Christian Colon(minors) SS 20 43 0 .302 .790
Provided by Baseball-Reference.com: View Original Table
Generated 9/7/2014.
EDITED DUE TO MY ERROR ON THE DRAFT PICK ORDER. AS POINTED OUT BY BAUER WANNABE HOUSTON GETS #2 PICK. SO D BACKS CURRENTLY HAVE 4TH PICK. IT PROBABLY BEHOOVES THEM TO FALL BEHIND THE ROCKIES AND GET THE 3RD PICK AT LEAST.
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Bauer wannabe |
Post subject: Re: 2015 Draft
Posted: Sun Sep 07, 2014 8:43 am
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They would have the 4th overall. Houston, thanks to their BS, have the #2 pick.
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shoewizard |
Post subject: Re: 2015 Draft
Posted: Sun Sep 07, 2014 8:56 am
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Thanks for correction. Can you please explain a little more clearly how Houston has #2 pick. Don't doubt you are correct, just didn't quite understand.
Thanks
EDIT: Nevermind, I was asleep at the wheel.
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The Astros will receive the second overall pick in the 2015 draft as compensation for failing to reach an agreement with Aiken. However, they will receive no compensation for missing out on Nix.
Link
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Post subject: Re: 2015 Draft
Posted: Fri Sep 12, 2014 9:47 am
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shoewizard wrote:
D backs as of right now would have teh #4pick. They are 1 game ahead of the Rockies who would have the number 3 pick if the season ended today. Texas looks like a lock for number 1 pick overall. Astros get #2 pick because they didn't sign Aiken. If the D Backs get "hot" they could play themselves out of a top 4pick, but it's unlikely they end up with lower than the 6th overall pick.
Through 9/11/2014:
Texas 54-92 (-165 run differential)
Arizona 59-87 (-114 run differential)
Colorado 59-87 (-79 run differential)
Run differential provided for informational purposes only.
I assume the tiebreaker for AZ/CO would be games against each other this season. Arizona is 9-6 versus Colorado so far this season with 4 games remaining in Colorado. If Colorado sweeps those 4 games, CO would take the season series 10-9. Would that give AZ the edge in the 2015 draft assuming a tie in the standings between AZ and CO?
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Post subject: Re: 2015 Draft
Posted: Thu Sep 18, 2014 8:50 pm
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At this point, and as these stats show, it's legitimately better for the Dbacks to tank the last nine games. Nothing will be gained from finishing strong for "pride" and "some good momentum heading into next season" (which of course is a fallacy).
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Post subject: Re: 2015 Draft
Posted: Sat Sep 20, 2014 9:43 am
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Only 1/2 game out of the #1 Pick! 
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Post subject: Re: 2015 Draft
Posted: Sat Sep 20, 2014 10:33 am
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azentropy wrote:
Only 1/2 game out of the #1 Pick! 

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Post subject: Re: 2015 Draft
Posted: Sat Sep 20, 2014 11:43 am
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azentropy wrote:
Only 1/2 game out of the #1 Pick! 

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Post subject: Re: 2015 Draft
Posted: Mon Sep 22, 2014 12:12 am
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Nick Piecoro: Diamondbacks in race for top draft pick
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Post subject: Re: 2015 Draft
Posted: Wed Sep 24, 2014 8:26 pm
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The magic number is now one.
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Post subject: Re: 2015 Draft
Posted: Wed Sep 24, 2014 10:11 pm
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This is interesting.
Evil Juan (in a post at the end of yesterday's GameDay thread) questioned the organization's track record with high picks. He specifically mentioned "top 3" picks, of which - I hasten to point out - AZ has actually only had two and, for my money, spent them well. J-Up (#1 in 2005) and Trevor Bauer (#3 in 2011).
The larger issue, in my view, is the organization's track record with top-ten picks. It isn't encouraging.
First, a recap of first-round history: AZ has had (by my unofficial count) 27 first round draft choices, including "supplemental" picks.
There were two years the org had no first round pick:
1998: Lost the first round pick to the KC Royals as compensation for signing Jay Bell (for which Gylene Hoyle will be eternally grateful - and of course for which ALL Dback fans will be grateful as Jay scored the winning run in their only World Championship game).
2000: Lost the first round pick to the Atlanta Braves as compensation for signing -0.3 WAR/$3.425mm salary Russ Springer. The hapless Braves wasted that pick (#29) on some chump named Adam Wainright.
So back to the ACTUAL top picks - and I have arbitrarily set the bar at top-ten picks. So all Dback draft picks that were between #1 and #10 since inception. . . because my recollection (which is significantly less than 20-20) is that they haven't used them wisely.
There have been five. I already noted Upton and Bauer. No complaint from me about either, despite the organization's mishandling (in my view) of each asset.
The other three?
1999: Corey Myers, SS out of Desert Vista HS in Phoenix. Seriously?
2010: Barret Loux, RHP out of Texas A&M. Couldn't sign him. Really?
2011: Archie Bradley, RHP out of Broken Arrow HS in BA, OK. Fading, but not written off.
So, yeah. Not exactly inspiring. . . unless you limit yourself to their top three picks, both of which were solid, in my view. And Bradley is still out there.
Let's just say I'm not holding my breath, but am hoping for a nice surprise. It hasn't been as disastrous as my memory would insist.
The real issue is what they do with these assets after they draft them. Upton and Bauer were wasted and Bradley still has command issues. (My opinion only, YMMV.)
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Post subject: Re: 2015 Draft
Posted: Thu Sep 25, 2014 4:31 am
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2011 shows what a crap shoot the draft is. Re Bauer, the problem started with giving him the idea that he could do it "his way", regardless of results, making it questionable why they picked him in the first place.
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Post subject: Re: 2015 Draft
Posted: Thu Sep 25, 2014 9:34 pm
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Steve Gilbert: The Rangers win tonight means the #Dbacks own No. 1 pick in next year's draft. 2nd time in franchise history they'll have MLB worst record.
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Post subject: Re: 2015 Draft
Posted: Fri Sep 26, 2014 6:57 am
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TAP wrote:
Steve Gilbert: The Rangers win tonight means the #Dbacks own No. 1 pick in next year's draft. 2nd time in franchise history they'll have MLB worst record.
almost... Magic # is 1
Rockies are 3 GB, so in the unlikely scenario where we sweep StL and they get swept its a tie and that goes to the Rockies.
So we're close to clinching, but need 1 more blowout loss to clinch. 
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Post subject: Re: 2015 Draft
Posted: Fri Sep 26, 2014 9:29 am
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I think Cahill can make that happen
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Post subject: Re: 2015 Draft
Posted: Fri Sep 26, 2014 10:30 pm
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The #1 pick is ours!!!!

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Post subject: Re: 2015 Draft
Posted: Fri Sep 26, 2014 10:35 pm
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Post subject: Re: 2015 Draft
Posted: Sat Sep 27, 2014 2:17 pm
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Its looking like (albeit VERY early) either Duke RHP Michael Matuella or Prep OF Daz Cameron...the potential of Cameron may be too much to pass on.
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Post subject: Re: 2015 Draft
Posted: Sat Sep 27, 2014 3:04 pm
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Ron B wrote:
Its looking like (albeit VERY early) either Duke RHP Michael Matuella or Prep OF Daz Cameron...the potential of Cameron may be too much to pass on.
Pitchers are such a crapshoot (more so than hitters anyway) that, all things being equal, I'd rather take Cameron if that's the choice. Hopefully the Stew Crew (I feel like I should trademark that, LOL) will make a well-researched decision.
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Post subject: Re: 2015 Draft
Posted: Sat Sep 27, 2014 3:18 pm
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Ryan wrote:
Ron B wrote:
Its looking like (albeit VERY early) either Duke RHP Michael Matuella or Prep OF Daz Cameron...the potential of Cameron may be too much to pass on.
Pitchers are such a crapshoot (more so than hitters anyway) that, all things being equal, I'd rather take Cameron if that's the choice. Hopefully the Stew Crew (I feel like I should trademark that, LOL) will make a well-researched decision.
I tend to agree with you. Once you also figure in the injury factor that ultimately comes with pitchers, Matuella would have to be far and away the better prospect. Not sure that's the case right now, although there is a lot of time for that to change.
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