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Post subject: 2016 Projections thread
Posted: Fri Dec 11, 2015 8:55 pm
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Figured I'd open a thread regarding 2016 projections
link to AZ Snakepit post
Right now only have steamer projections. They have D Backs at 16.8 Pitching WAR and 15.6 Position Player WAR, 32.4 WAR +48 WAR replacement level means roughly 81 WIN team.
i really can't be bothered going through the hassle of lining up the columns here....but go to snakepit link for clear table. Read the disclaimer too. 
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Post subject: Re: 2016 Projections thread
Posted: Sat Dec 12, 2015 12:23 pm
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Well done! Thanks!!!
Looking at the roster, it became clear that despite any pieces added, the dbax will only go as far as the unproven young players take them. You can bank on Greinke/Goldy's production, but that's about it.
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Post subject: Re: 2016 Projections thread
Posted: Sun Dec 13, 2015 12:35 am
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dirtygary wrote:
Well done! Thanks!!!
Looking at the roster, it became clear that despite any pieces added, the dbax will only go as far as the unproven young players take them. You can bank on Greinke/Goldy's production, but that's about it.
Great point . I'd probably put Pollock in there too. He's gonna give you at least 3-4 oWAR I would gather. (thats WAR counting him as an average fielder)
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Post subject: Re: 2016 Projections thread
Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2016 11:48 am
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ZiPS projections
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Post subject: Re: 2016 Projections thread
Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2016 3:35 pm
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lol Salty isn't even on the team anymore. I hate our corner OF'ers. C'mon Brito....
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Post subject: Re: 2016 Projections thread
Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2016 5:50 pm
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Yeah, Dan acknowledged that. It's just a spreadsheet and because of the way it's staggered in release, sometimes signed or traded players don't show up on the right teams during the slow release period.
Anyone unsigned is usually shown on the most recent team they were on.
Anyway, if you look at the depth chart portion, they show Hermann, not Salty
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Post subject: Re: 2016 Projections thread
Posted: Sat Jan 09, 2016 5:09 pm
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So here are links to several articles about ZIPS and also Steamer
ZIPS projects 86 wins for AZ using my playing time projections
ZIPS and Steamer rate stats
Jim's ZIPS overvierw
May need to update shortly if Kendrick rumors are true
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Post subject: Re: 2016 Projections thread
Posted: Mon Apr 25, 2016 2:32 pm
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http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/201 ... edictions/
has the dbacks going 82-80 30% chance of making the playoffs 14% chance of winning the division and a 2% chance of winning the World Series
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Post subject: Re: 2016 Projections thread
Posted: Mon Apr 25, 2016 5:08 pm
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misterx wrote:
http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2016-mlb-predictions/
has the dbacks going 82-80 30% chance of making the playoffs 14% chance of winning the division and a 2% chance of winning the World Series
sounds close to what I think. Pre Pollock injury I had them about 86 Wins.......
But with Pollock hurt and Chris Owings getting majority of CF playing time, and the starting pitching as bad as it's been, 82-80 seems about right.
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Post subject: Re: 2016 Projections thread
Posted: Mon Apr 25, 2016 5:14 pm
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Yeah, it's about right. Glass half-full: Pollock out, SP has sucked and yet they're 10-10. If/When the SP will correct itself and the team stays healthy they can be in the race in July when they can trade away some more prospects to make a run with Pollock in the 2nd half.
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Post subject: Re: 2016 Projections thread
Posted: Mon Apr 25, 2016 6:13 pm
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Oden wrote:
they can be in the race in July when they can trade away some more prospects to make a run with Pollock in the 2nd half.

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Post subject: Re: 2016 Projections thread
Posted: Mon Apr 25, 2016 7:32 pm
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Oden if thats glass half full, I don't want any part of glass half empty
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Post subject: Re: 2016 Projections thread
Posted: Sun May 15, 2016 4:13 pm
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before the start of the season some projections had the dbacks 70 something wins maybe they were on to something
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Post subject: Re: 2016 Projections thread
Posted: Sun May 15, 2016 4:50 pm
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I wouldn't get too worried. Dave Stewart said:
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And if you are thinking logically and we won 79 games last year, with the additions of Greinke, Miller, Clippard, Segura, people that make your team better, I think it is impossible for us to only win 78 games.
Worst-case scenario is the team goes 62-60 the rest of the way.
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Post subject: Re: 2016 Projections thread
Posted: Tue May 17, 2016 10:18 am
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http://insidethezona.com/2016/05/diamondbacks-projections-2016-right-all-along-goldschmidt-greinke-miller-pollock/
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Post subject: Re: 2016 Projections thread
Posted: Tue May 17, 2016 5:10 pm
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JoeCB91 wrote:
http://insidethezona.com/2016/05/diamondbacks-projections-2016-right-all-along-goldschmidt-greinke-miller-pollock/
Ahem....
Posted about 7 hours before the linked article
Glad I could be of some help. 
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Post subject: Re: 2016 Projections thread
Posted: Tue May 17, 2016 6:30 pm
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shoewizard wrote:
JoeCB91 wrote:
http://insidethezona.com/2016/05/diamondbacks-projections-2016-right-all-along-goldschmidt-greinke-miller-pollock/
Ahem....
Posted about 7 hours before the linked article
Glad I could be of some help. 
I wondered why it looked so familiar.
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Post subject: Re: 2016 Projections thread
Posted: Wed Jun 15, 2016 8:57 am
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shoewizard wrote:
misterx wrote:
http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2016-mlb-predictions/
has the dbacks going 82-80 30% chance of making the playoffs 14% chance of winning the division and a 2% chance of winning the World Series
sounds close to what I think. Pre Pollock injury I had them about 86 Wins.......
But with Pollock hurt and Chris Owings getting majority of CF playing time, and the starting pitching as bad as it's been, 82-80 seems about right.
If only
In order to end up 82-80 they need to go 53-42, 11 games over .500 the rest of the way
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