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tmar · Veteran Presence Joined: 10 Aug 2006 Posts: 1184

I know Shoe had talked about this before but I didn't have time to surf through the history of speculation. What do you think it would cost us prospect-wise to get both of these players from FLA and would it be worth it?

dirtygary · Posted: Fri Dec 01, 2006 4:29 pm Post subject:

Probably cost "the farm", and we can't do it.

But I'd want Cabrera first. And I'd give up anybody to get him. We need one big, legit bat that's going to put 30 out, bat over .310, and drive in 110+rbi's. We are loaded with above avg talent, but we don't ahve a superstar, unless Upton clicks.
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Zephon · Posted: Fri Dec 01, 2006 4:37 pm Post subject:

IIRC, the marlins are looking for a center fielder and a catcher....

I think we have guys besides just upton that could turn into superstars... I'm mostly looking at Chris Young, or the two Carloses.
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tmar · Veteran Presence Joined: 10 Aug 2006 Posts: 1184

I believe they are also look for relief pitching.

Willis on his own I wouldn't trade what they think he's worth, but if we could add Cabrera we'd be contenders in 2007 & 2008 and on.

levski · Veteran Presence Joined: 10 Aug 2006 Posts: 1763

Willis and Cabrera? Meh. Unless they include Josh Johnson, Scott Olsen and Taylor Tankersley, I'm not even talking to the Marlins...

tmar · Veteran Presence Joined: 10 Aug 2006 Posts: 1184

Wow, I just looked at their 2006 salary total <15MM> and projection for 2007 <21MM>. I guess they've got room to digest the Arbitration of both Willis and Cabrera.

I'd initially thought they'd be unable to afford the increases in salary, but damn they should be able to swing 21MM.

http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/florida_marlins/index.html

shoewizard · Posted: Fri Dec 01, 2006 7:16 pm Post subject:

I thought I had read somewhere Loria approved up to 25 million

dirtygary · Posted: Sat Dec 02, 2006 11:36 am Post subject:

They'll keep their own guys, even with the arb costs, but won't pick up any FA's. And they'll let their own guys walk once they FA.
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foulpole · Veteran Presence Joined: 10 Aug 2006 Posts: 1357

Their budget could change if they get a new ball park anywhere in the near future. I think they really need a retractable dome to eliminate the rain out threat.

shoewizard · Posted: Sat Dec 02, 2006 1:57 pm Post subject:

It doesn't look like they are anywhere near getting a stadium with a retractable roof though.....they are probably closer to relocation then they are to a new stadium, which was basically shot down in the flames early this year I believe.

stu · Everyday Player Joined: 12 Aug 2006 Posts: 560

It doesn't look like they are anywhere near getting a stadium with a retractable roof though.....they are probably closer to relocation then they are to a new stadium, which was basically shot down in the flames early this year I believe.

I agree. It shows there is more to a successful franchise than picking up young players.

baldmaga · Posted: Sat Dec 02, 2006 3:45 pm Post subject:

Wasn't Portland a front runner for relocation before the season?

David B · Posted: Sat Dec 02, 2006 4:37 pm Post subject:

Portland hasn't been a front runner for a couple years now. I think Las Vegas, San Antonio, Sacramento, etc. have probably all leap-frogged the Rose City Sad

dirtygary · Posted: Sat Dec 02, 2006 11:51 pm Post subject:

There's been renewed talks for a baseball park next to the basketball arena in downtown Miami. The problem the Marlins have faced is limited state budgets the last few years - basically a public financial crisis. A lot of cities faced that prospect and you couldn't assume every team would wind up getting the funding. It took years for Minnesota to finally approve a stadium. But the public finance crisis has turned around, and I think this is the plan that's going to stick for FLA.
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shoewizard · Posted: Sun Dec 03, 2006 7:47 am Post subject:

I hope they don't got for the cheap version like Minnesota did though.

They need a freaking roof.

Oden · Posted: Sun Dec 03, 2006 9:07 am Post subject:

We don't need no stinkin' roof. The roof on the Metrodome took the life out of football and baseball fans in MN. I don't care how many rainouts and cold days they have to endure up there. An outdoor stadium is just fine.
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foulpole · Veteran Presence Joined: 10 Aug 2006 Posts: 1357

shoewizard · Posted: Sun Dec 03, 2006 9:22 am Post subject:

Oden · Posted: Sun Dec 03, 2006 9:26 am Post subject:

Spoken by someone who lives in a friggin' desert! It won't be a huge deal in MN.
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stu · Everyday Player Joined: 12 Aug 2006 Posts: 560

Oden · Posted: Sun Dec 03, 2006 9:42 am Post subject:

Hey, it's not the fans choice. I sat outside at Met Stadium as a little kid for the '75/'76/wheneveritwas NFC championship game against the Rams. It was something like -20 without the windchill and we were in the bleachers. I was in a snowmobile suit and two sleeping bags and I didn't complain.
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TAP · Posted: Sun Dec 03, 2006 10:12 am Post subject:

stu · Everyday Player Joined: 12 Aug 2006 Posts: 560

I was once at the game that was so cold that we had to use a lighter to thaw out the words so we knew what had been said.

TAP · Posted: Sun Dec 03, 2006 12:15 pm Post subject:

stu · Everyday Player Joined: 12 Aug 2006 Posts: 560

OK an old cheap joke. I needed David's rim shot to make it work.