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Post subject: Bobby Borchering  Posted: Fri Aug 06, 2010 10:04 am |
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Made Baseball America's Prospect Hot Sheet today. In at #3. LinkQuote: No. 3 BOBBY BORCHERING, 3B DIAMONDBACKS
Team: low Class A South Bend (Midwest)
Age: 19
Why He's Here: .517/.563/.897 (15-for-29), 9 R, 3 2B, 1 3B, 2 HR, 9 RBIs, 2 BB, 4 SO
The Scoop: The Diamondbacks were loaded with top picks in the 2009 draft, including five picks before the second round. Their top pick was Borchering, the 16th overall selection out of high school in Florida. The early returns were shaky, as the powerful switch-hitter wasn't doing much of any hitting. That changed this week, when Borchering had the best week of his pro career. He's had a multi-hit game in his last five games and homered for the second straight day yesterday, bringing him up to .277/.340/.422 in 104 games.
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Post subject: Re: Bobby Borchering Posted: Fri Aug 06, 2010 11:21 am |
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We have a lot to think about as an organization. We have 3 guys in MR, BB, and MD who play the same position, but who will be our long term 3B and what do we do with the other 2?
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Post subject: Re: Bobby Borchering Posted: Fri Aug 06, 2010 12:37 pm |
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As much as I am a fan of MR27, I would like to see what BB?? can do.
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Post subject: Re: Bobby Borchering Posted: Fri Aug 06, 2010 12:48 pm |
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Assuming Davidson and Borchering both continue to progress, it's a good problem to have. Let's wait until they're at least a little closer to major league ready before we worry about what to do, though.
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Post subject: Re: Bobby Borchering Posted: Fri Aug 06, 2010 1:10 pm |
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Yeah - those guys are still in A ball. Noone is close to blocking anyone at this point. Let these guys stew in the minors for a while.
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Post subject: Re: Bobby Borchering Posted: Fri Aug 06, 2010 1:21 pm |
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Itd be just awesome depth if both Borchering and Davidson turn into the top prospects we expect them to become and Reynolds develops into one of the top ML 3rd basemen. That would give us good trade stock and make building a stronger roster easier.
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Post subject: Re: Bobby Borchering Posted: Fri Aug 06, 2010 3:40 pm |
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Colt-Back wrote: Itd be just awesome depth if both Borchering and Davidson turn into the top prospects we expect them to become and Reynolds develops into one of the top ML 3rd basemen. That would give us good trade stock and make building a stronger roster easier. And..don't forget there's highly regarded R. Wheeler and P. Goldschmidt at Visalia who also play the corner positions(Goldy other side, but it's been talked about BB or MD playing 1B as well). There's definitely some depth at the corner positions and certainly provides trade possibilities. Will be interesting to see how this plays out. No doubt Borchering will be pegged for a spot...but what about the other guys?
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Post subject: Re: Bobby Borchering Posted: Wed Sep 29, 2010 7:04 am |
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bigyellowbud wrote: Colt-Back wrote: Itd be just awesome depth if both Borchering and Davidson turn into the top prospects we expect them to become and Reynolds develops into one of the top ML 3rd basemen. That would give us good trade stock and make building a stronger roster easier. And..don't forget there's highly regarded R. Wheeler and P. Goldschmidt at Visalia who also play the corner positions(Goldy other side, but it's been talked about BB or MD playing 1B as well). There's definitely some depth at the corner positions and certainly provides trade possibilities. Will be interesting to see how this plays out. No doubt Borchering will be pegged for a spot...but what about the other guys? Unfortunately I'm not quite sure if Wheeler falls under the "highly regarded" label anymore.
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Post subject: Re: Bobby Borchering Posted: Wed Sep 29, 2010 4:51 pm |
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azdsnd wrote: Unfortunately I'm not quite sure if Wheeler falls under the "highly regarded" label anymore. As Louis DePalma always said, "Wheeler - loser." 
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Post subject: Re: Bobby Borchering Posted: Fri Sep 23, 2011 6:35 pm |
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Quote: nickpiecoro Nick Piecoro
I haven't been out to instructs yet, but word is Bobby Borchering has been playing left field, which apparently will be his long-term home. I forgot who mentioned the possibility that Borchering repeat a year at Visalia and now that looks like it could be a possibility. Mobile has Krauss out in left and he had a down year and probably shouldn't be promoted up to Reno.
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Post subject: Re: Bobby Borchering Posted: Fri Sep 23, 2011 7:38 pm |
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#Dbacks indeed have moved Borchering to LF in instrux with 3B depth including Wheeler, Davidson. OF Mateo spending a lot of time at at 1B.
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Post subject: Re: Bobby Borchering Posted: Sat Sep 24, 2011 4:59 am |
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I think it was somewhat inevitable that they'd move Borchering to left field. His defense at first base was getting some mixed reviews and it is best to get him used to his likely long term position in a full year with Mobile.
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Post subject: Re: Bobby Borchering Posted: Sat Sep 24, 2011 6:11 am |
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I'm actually good with this decision. Since it looks like we have a first baseman, and you can always find use for a power switch hitting corner outfielder, I really hope he can make the transition and find a home.
Edit: Especially since Parra is a Super 2, and is therefore Arb eligible this off season. So he could potentially be getting expensive by the time Borchering is ready.
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Post subject: Re: Bobby Borchering Posted: Sat Sep 24, 2011 7:01 pm |
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shoewizard wrote: Edit: Especially since Parra is a Super 2, and is therefore Arb eligible this off season. So he could potentially be getting expensive by the time Borchering is ready. Parra's going to need to hit a lot more HR's to cost that much, unless the arbitrators start factoring UZR into their value determination...
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Post subject: Re: Bobby Borchering Posted: Sat Sep 24, 2011 11:39 pm |
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Getting to arbitration a year early due to super 2 status means that he gets 4 years of arb wages. Even without the big homer totals, it adds up by the last couple of years.
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Post subject: Re: Bobby Borchering Posted: Sun Sep 25, 2011 12:56 am |
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What's the escalation factor for S2's? The conventional Arb sched goes 40%-60%-80% of market rate right? If it's a 2nd year of 80% of market rate then yeah, that gets expensive. 2 40% years, not so much.
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Post subject: Re: Bobby Borchering Posted: Sun Sep 25, 2011 3:43 am |
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It will be a difference of at least 2-3 million by the end of the arb process, and potentially more. There is a reason teams gip players out of service time and hold them back till late May/early June when they have the chance.
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Post subject: Re: Bobby Borchering Posted: Sun Sep 25, 2011 7:57 am |
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shoewizard wrote: It will be a difference of at least 2-3 million by the end of the arb process, and potentially more. There is a reason teams gip players out of service time and hold them back till late May/early June when they have the chance. That sounds like an extra year at the 40% rate.
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Post subject: Re: Bobby Borchering Posted: Sun Sep 25, 2011 3:15 pm |
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It's exponential. The difference between being a super 2 and not being a super 2 is estimated on average to about 31% difference over the course of 4 years. LINKSo instead of making say 13 million between years 3-6, he could be making 16-17 million. He'll probably get at least 2 million for 2012, and he could be up to 4 million as quickly as 2013 with just a small bump in power. And if he remains a starter, he would be at 5-6 million for 2014. Borchering may look pretty attractive by then.
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Post subject: Re: Bobby Borchering Posted: Sun Sep 25, 2011 4:18 pm |
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If Borchering even approaches anything resembling attractive compared to the LFer that's posting a .300 BA/.360 OBP, 12-15 HR/25-30 2B, plus defense, and costs only $6-8M; then that would be a tremendously outstanding problem to have.
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