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 Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2007 6:33 am Post subject: Paul Hagen / Philadelphia Daily News is an idiot |
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| Paul Hagen / Philadelphia Daily News this morning wrote: |
THE SAN FRANCISCO Giants had just signed lefthander Barry Zito, the crown jewel of last winter's free-agent pitching market. Josh Byrnes, general manager of the division rival Arizona Diamondbacks, could only watch and envy the move.
"People have got to be thinking about the Giants as the favorites now," he told the San Francisco Chronicle. "They had a chance to separate themselves from everyone else in baseball with their moves this offseason and they did . . . This absolutely puts them over the top."
There was nothing Byrnes could do about it, either. He didn't have the $126 million over 7 years that San Francisco lavished on Zito. |
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Paul, here's the original Byrnes quote from December 28, 2006:
Former A's outfielder Eric Byrnes, who now plays for Arizona and will face Zito often, predicted Zito will do well in San Francisco.
"People have got to be thinking about the Giants as the favorites now," Byrnes said. "They had a chance to separate themselves from everyone else in baseball with their moves this offseason and they did. Now that they have the two Barrys, this absolutely puts them over the top. Everyone in the NL West will be shooting at these guys."
Henry Schulman and Susan Slusser / San Francisco Chronicle
That's ERIC BYRNES, you doofus Paul Hagen, not Josh Byrnes! There is a difference. These freaking east coast newspapers don't have a clue about what happens west of the Mississippi.
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shoewizard
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| Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2007 6:40 am Post subject: |
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| I just sent him an e mail.......did you? |
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Ryan
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| Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2007 9:58 am Post subject: |
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This reminds me of watching all of the other teams' broadcasters this past season (I have MLB EI so usually get the home team's feed), and laughing at how frequently they thought that our manager was Brewers GM Doug Melvin.
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| Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2007 11:12 am Post subject: |
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unreal......these people get paid to get facts right!
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| Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2007 11:24 am Post subject: |
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Perhaps the newspaper couldn't afford a really good sportswriter and settled for this dude instead.  |
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matt
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| Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2007 11:29 am Post subject: |
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| We could send them Bickley... |
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shoewizard
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| Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2007 11:36 am Post subject: |
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The point in this case is that getting his facts wrong totally undermines the central point of what he wrote, so don't expect to see a correction or a retraction.
I sent him an e mail, but no response. |
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xjwheelr
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| Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2007 11:51 am Post subject: |
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I sent him an email as well. I'm half-tempted to forward the article to the Diamondbacks organization so they can ask for a retraction.
Stupid.
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B. O. N. D.
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| Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2007 11:59 am Post subject: |
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| xjwheelr wrote: |
I sent him an email as well. I'm half-tempted to forward the article to the Diamondbacks organization so they can ask for a retraction.
Stupid. |
DO it!!!!
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| Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2007 12:32 pm Post subject: |
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so i'm guessing you guys never got names mixed up before or made a mistake
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matt
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| Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2007 12:33 pm Post subject: |
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| B. O. N. D. wrote: |
| xjwheelr wrote: |
I sent him an email as well. I'm half-tempted to forward the article to the Diamondbacks organization so they can ask for a retraction.
Stupid. |
DO it!!!!
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That's actually a really good idea. If I was JB I wouldn't want everyone to think that I was gaga over Zito.
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| Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2007 12:36 pm Post subject: |
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| misterx wrote: |
| so i'm guessing you guys never got names mixed up before or made a mistake |
You are missing the point.
Read the opening of the article and the tone. Does he write that at all if he realized the quote was Eric, no Josh?
Also, it's his JOB to be factual, and correct, as it is that of his editors.
He richly deserves this criticism. He did a very poor job at his job, and made what could be construed as belittling comments about Josh Byrnes in the process.
But I'm sure he'll be glad to know you are in his corner.
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misterx
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| Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2007 12:39 pm Post subject: |
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| shoewizard wrote: |
| misterx wrote: |
| so i'm guessing you guys never got names mixed up before or made a mistake |
You are missing the point.
Read the opening of the article and the tone. Does he write that at all if he realized the quote was Eric, no Josh?
Also, it's his JOB to be factual, and correct, as it is that of his editors.
He richly deserves this criticism. He did a very poor job at his job, and made what could be construed as belittling comments about Josh Byrnes in the process.
But I'm sure he'll be glad to know you are in his corner.
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news people make mistakes all the time they are people too is my point
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shoewizard
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| Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2007 12:42 pm Post subject: |
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Yup....and we pointed out his mistakes.
But your point....which is clear from your first post....is that you think we are being hypocrites for criticizing him for his mistake......
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so i'm guessing you guys never got names mixed up before or made a mistake |
You rebuked us for getting on the guys case. THAT was your point.
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misterx
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| Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2007 1:24 pm Post subject: |
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| shoewizard wrote: |
Yup....and we pointed out his mistakes.
But your point....which is clear from your first post....is that you think we are being hypocrites for criticizing him for his mistake......
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so i'm guessing you guys never got names mixed up before or made a mistake |
You rebuked us for getting on the guys case. THAT was your point.
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I'm sorry about my first comment but it irritated me that someone got called an idiot for one article. I admittedly never read anything by the guy but i believe this is the first time i heard of him. So maybe all his articles are like this. My intent wasn't to call anyone a hypocrite here.
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"Personality of a thumb-tack" - E Byrnes
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| Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2007 1:28 pm Post subject: |
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| matt wrote: |
| B. O. N. D. wrote: |
| xjwheelr wrote: |
I sent him an email as well. I'm half-tempted to forward the article to the Diamondbacks organization so they can ask for a retraction.
Stupid. |
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That's actually a really good idea. If I was JB I wouldn't want everyone to think that I was gaga over Zito.
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I sent an email to Josh with the link to this thread.
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| Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2007 3:07 pm Post subject: |
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| matt wrote: |
| We could send them Bickley... |
would there have to be money involved? i could pitch in for that. or maybe Bickley for a writer to be named???
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| Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2007 3:11 pm Post subject: |
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| Adam wrote: |
| matt wrote: |
| We could send them Bickley... |
would there have to be money involved? i could pitch in for that. or maybe Bickley for a writer to be named???
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I'm not sure I'd want Hagen, but I'd pay good money to get Bickely out of town.
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| Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2007 3:23 pm Post subject: |
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| stu wrote: |
| Adam wrote: |
| matt wrote: |
| We could send them Bickley... |
would there have to be money involved? i could pitch in for that. or maybe Bickley for a writer to be named???
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I'm not sure I'd want Hagen, but I'd pay good money to get Bickely out of town.
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Maybe we could get an intern..uh, I mean prospect, back in return.
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Adam
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| Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2007 3:44 pm Post subject: |
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The more i think about it, just Bickley plus cash.
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matt
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| Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2007 3:49 pm Post subject: |
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| DesertKnight wrote: |
| stu wrote: |
| Adam wrote: |
| matt wrote: |
| We could send them Bickley... |
would there have to be money involved? i could pitch in for that. or maybe Bickley for a writer to be named???
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I'm not sure I'd want Hagen, but I'd pay good money to get Bickely out of town.
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Maybe we could get an intern..uh, I mean prospect, back in return.
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I think you are overvaluing Bickley.
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qudjy1
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| Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2007 5:54 pm Post subject: |
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Wow. That ticks me off.
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| Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2007 6:00 pm Post subject: |
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I don't think Josh will object to my posting his reaction to Paul Hagen's misinformed misquote:
Not good. That's a fairly significant error and goes against the grain from my normal rhetoric regarding free agent expenditures.
Josh
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qudjy1
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| Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2007 6:36 pm Post subject: |
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I don't think Josh will object to my posting his reaction to Paul Hagen's misinformed misquote:
Not good. That's a fairly significant error and goes against the grain from my normal rhetoric regarding free agent expenditures.
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hehe.... pretty funny.
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| Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2007 6:44 pm Post subject: |
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| The comment from JB "The FA pitching market is fools gold" comes to mind. |
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