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allstar · Posted: Mon Aug 06, 2007 5:30 pm Post subject: Chances of CY repeat for Webb

Is there any chance left for him? I honestly think he does.

Jake Peavy
11-5 2.30 ERA

Brad Penny
13-3 2.66 ERA

Brandon Webb
11-8 2.92ERA

Obviously, those two guys are ahead of Webb in the Cy Young Award race right now, but with the way Webb's pitching and the way that Peavy and Penny's been struggling, I think there is a chance that Webb can win the award. Of course, we have to wait until the season plays out, but Webb has an easier schedule, I should say, as far as the opponents go (PIT,WAS,STL, etc...)

Webb also has higher strikeout total than Penny and is definitely outpitching both of those guys as far as innings pitched goes (Webb 166.2/Peavy 145.0/Penny 149.0.) Also, he has the only shutout of the three and he has two complete games while Peavy and Penny has none. If the Diamondbacks finish at first which I think they will, Webb has a legit chance of repeating his Cy Young Award.

P.S. This is all my opinion, just wanted to see what you guys think. Wink

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qudjy1 · Hall of Famer Joined: 10 Aug 2006 Posts: 4283

He is going to have to dominate, and have help from those 2 at this point. Someone esle pointed out earlier, that Webb has to WIN games as well as pitch well - as W/L figures in to the equation (too much).

I have to say - im not a big award guy. When a panel of judges gets together to decide something - i usually lose interest.

ROY, MVP, HOF, CY - none of it does much for me. I think i am in the minority though.

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dirtygary · Posted: Mon Aug 06, 2007 5:47 pm Post subject:

It'd have to be a real string of dominance down the stretch for Webb. The winner is comin from the West division champions. And if Webb reels off an 8-1 to close out the season, we should win the West, and he should get the CY because of it. The innings and strikeouts are really piling up for Webb, and that ERA just keeps getting lower. Whereas the other contenders are kinda tailing off.

Penny started off, what, 11-0? He's 2-2 post-streak, and could wind up with 6 losses or so and an elevated ERA. Who wants to give the CY to a guy that floundered the second half and finished in 3rd?

Peavy is locked in and should win it, but the SD offense could screw him out of the award. ERA's and K's are nice, but the voters look at wins. If Webb is leading him in W's and IP's, trailing in K's & ERA (barely), but SD chokes down the stretch and finishes 2nd, the Voters don't like voting for losers. Especially when there is an alternative in the other dugout that got the W.
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allstar · Posted: Mon Aug 06, 2007 5:50 pm Post subject:

Webb winning the Cy Young is definitely open for him.
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DBACKSHEELSPANTHS · Posted: Mon Aug 06, 2007 6:00 pm Post subject:

Well, here's the deal....he just has too many losses. Not his fault...no offense, bad defense....blah blah. I think he could dominate the rest of the way and he still won't get it. Some people care way too much about W/L record. See RJ 2K4.
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allstar · Posted: Mon Aug 06, 2007 6:02 pm Post subject:

What if Webb only loses like say, one more game?
Penny is becoming the same old himself in the 2nd half, so he's probably out of race.
Peavy already has 5 losses, so if he losses like 3 more, that's 8 losts for him. I think there's more than good chance of Webby winning the CY.
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DBACKSHEELSPANTHS · Posted: Mon Aug 06, 2007 6:09 pm Post subject:

Anything is possible. There have been a few CY winners with 10 or more losses...it's just not likely.

And I don't see Penny dropping off a whole lot either. He has only had 2 starts all year that were not quality starts. One a little over a month ago, the other in May.

I just think the other two have too much of a head start at this point. They would really have to screw up the rest of the way.
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Robert S. · Hall of Famer Joined: 10 Aug 2006 Posts: 2947

I think the ERA's are going to be bunched closer by season's end and that Webb will have a solid lead in IP, but he is going to be decidedly behind in the W/L department.

My honest best guess: Zambrano wins 20 and gets the Cy Young.

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Ryan · Posted: Mon Aug 06, 2007 7:01 pm Post subject:

Dre · Posted: Mon Aug 06, 2007 7:08 pm Post subject:

Whether or not Chicago, SD, LA or we make the playoffs will also be a huge factor

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allstar · Posted: Mon Aug 06, 2007 9:31 pm Post subject:

Webby can do it, I know it. Wink

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baldmaga · Posted: Mon Aug 06, 2007 10:41 pm Post subject:

Not to be a party pooper, but Chris Young is up there too.

sb24ws2005 · Posted: Mon Aug 06, 2007 11:24 pm Post subject:

Webb certainly has a chance at the Cy Young. He'll need to dominate down the stretch. Something like 30-40 scoreless innings, 8-9 wins in a row, on the way to the Dbacks winning the division (without a healthy Randy Johnson). He's well on his way to it, too. 3 wins in a row with 24 scoreless innings.

Webb leads the league in IP, starts, shutouts (tied with a bunch of people with 1). He's 3rd in strikeouts and 4th in ERA. Those numbers will continue to get better. His WHIP is 1.24.

Chris Young will have to come off the DL or he won't be able to get enough votes. Tim Hudson, for whatever reason, doesn't get enough pub. He's 12-5 with a 2.95 ERA. What helps Webb, though, is he is by far the best pitcher on his team.

ESPN has a nifty tool from Bill James called the Cy Predictor. Webb has been climbing the list quickly over the past month. Interestingly, Valverde is 8th on the list. What a great couple months to look forward to...

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/features/cy

dirtygary · Posted: Tue Aug 07, 2007 12:24 am Post subject:

Hudson has been getting phenomenal results. Hell of a rebound year for him.
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NJ-DBACKS-FAN · Posted: Tue Aug 07, 2007 4:43 am Post subject:

we would have to win the west i think for him to get it
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Dre · Posted: Wed Aug 08, 2007 7:19 pm Post subject:

Zambrano got lit up by Houston tonight, 7 ER in 5.2 IP

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Chris Young will be in the mix for the CY also.

pedrini · AAA Stud Joined: 03 Jan 2007 Posts: 52 Location: Nogales

webb has to take advantage of young being on the DL he needs to keep pitching like he is now..
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Gorfo57 · Veteran Presence Joined: 13 Oct 2006 Posts: 1834

If Webb doesn't reach the 17-18 win mark he may get little consideration if Peavy or Penny notch 16 Ws or more.
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