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kris
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 Posted: Fri Aug 03, 2007 3:25 pm Post subject: Diamondbacks Dumpster diving for Cirillo, BK Kim |
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http://www.rotoworld.com/content/playerpages/playerbreakingnews.asp?sport=MLB&id=1951&line=219092&spln=1
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Twins traded IF Jeff Cirillo to the Diamondbacks for an undisclosed minor leaguer.
For a team that's still in contention, the Twins sure don't act like it. Losing Luis Castillo and Cirillo won't crush their chances by any means, but it's still odd for a team within striking distance of a playoff spot to part with veteran hitters when their offense needed more help to begin with. Cirillo will serve as a bench bat for the Diamondbacks.
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kris
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| Posted: Fri Aug 03, 2007 3:30 pm Post subject: |
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Why would D-backs need Cirillo ?
D-backs have Ojeda and Callespo (in AAA).
If cirillo is added to 40 man roster, who is going out ?
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| Posted: Fri Aug 03, 2007 3:34 pm Post subject: |
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| A poor man's Morgan Ensberg? Yeah, I'd take him over Ojeda. |
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FatLeprechaun
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| Posted: Fri Aug 03, 2007 3:35 pm Post subject: |
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| We desperately need another right-handed batter. |
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DBACKSHEELSPANTHS
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| Posted: Fri Aug 03, 2007 3:37 pm Post subject: |
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well...this is suprising. 
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| Posted: Fri Aug 03, 2007 3:39 pm Post subject: |
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We acquired a 37-year old right handed batting third baseman who's hitting .261/.327/.386 this season in 153 AB's?
Gotta be more to the story... |
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Oden
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| Posted: Fri Aug 03, 2007 3:39 pm Post subject: |
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| Seriously? Can our Tucson folks tell us if Chris Carter is the player? Cirillo is not much of a fielder any more. He's just old and often hurt. He has played exactly 106 innings at 3rd this year. He hasn't made an error yet, but seriously... the Twins played Punto over him for a reason. |
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wedge
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| Posted: Fri Aug 03, 2007 3:40 pm Post subject: |
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color this guy a little confused.
I hope that minor leaguer is of little consequence.
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EvilJuan
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| Posted: Fri Aug 03, 2007 3:40 pm Post subject: |
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| Otacon wrote: |
| Yeah, I'd take him over Ojeda. |
Ojeda's numbers are all equal to or better than Cirillo's...
Among other things, this suggests the FO is really down on Callaspo...
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qudjy1
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| Posted: Fri Aug 03, 2007 3:40 pm Post subject: |
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| Wow... Cirillo brings Oden out of the woodwork????? This trade was good for something.... |
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wedge
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| Posted: Fri Aug 03, 2007 3:41 pm Post subject: |
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| Oden wrote: |
| Seriously? Can our Tucson folks tell us if Chris Carter is the player? Cirillo is not much of a fielder any more. He's just old and often hurt. He has played exactly 106 innings at 3rd this year. He hasn't made an error yet, but seriously... the Twins played Punto over him for a reason. |
I can't imagine it was carter...if it was, the twins just committed highway robbery, in my mind.
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qudjy1
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| Posted: Fri Aug 03, 2007 3:43 pm Post subject: |
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| RJ to 60 day clears the 40 man spot, right???? |
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qudjy1
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| Posted: Fri Aug 03, 2007 3:44 pm Post subject: |
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Is cirilo an upgrade over hairston?
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Oden
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| Posted: Fri Aug 03, 2007 3:46 pm Post subject: |
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| Cirillo is pretty much ready to retire, so he's no great loss to MN. The big quesiton is, what did the D-backs give up? |
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| I guessing that Reynolds gets optioned or Tracy is DL'd. Since Cirillo is an RHB, I'd put money on the former. Honestly, this is a good move. Shoewizard showed Reynold's stats since his hot streak and they have been abysmal. They can't put up with Reynold's 60 or so OPS+ anymore. |
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kris
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| Posted: Fri Aug 03, 2007 3:52 pm Post subject: |
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| matt wrote: |
| I guessing that Reynolds gets optioned or Tracy is DL'd. Since Cirillo is an RHB, I'd put money on the former. Honestly, this is a good move. Shoewizard showed Reynold's stats since his hot streak and they have been abysmal. They can't put up with Reynold's 60 or so OPS+ anymore. |
Why not use D'antona ?
I am still worried, who did D-backs give up ..?
Twins have a history of Robbery/Heist of trades..
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| Posted: Fri Aug 03, 2007 3:52 pm Post subject: |
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| I'm gonna retract my Ensberg comp since he still has pop and Cirillo doesn't. Decent K:BB ratio though. |
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Cirillo: .261/.327/.386; OPS=.713
Players whose numbers are >= Cirillo
BA OBP SLG OPS
== === === ===
Byrnes Byrnes Byrnes Byrnes
Hudson Hudson Clark Tracy
Ojeda Jackson Reynolds Hudson
Jackson Tracy Tracy Jackson
Tracy Snyder Young Reynolds
Ojeda Hudson Clark
Jackson Young
Snyder Snyder
Ojeda Ojeda
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| Posted: Fri Aug 03, 2007 3:54 pm Post subject: |
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So the Padres get Ensberg, and we get Cirillo. Great.
My guess is Carter was the one to go. Do the twins need a lefty DH? |
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qudjy1
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| shoewizard wrote: |
So the Padres get Ensberg, and we get Cirillo. Great.
My guess is Carter was the one to go. Do the twins need a lefty DH? |
That would suck.
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qudjy1
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D-backs claim Cirillo off waivers
LOS ANGELES -- The D-backs claimed infielder Jeff Cirillo from the Twins on Friday.
The 37-year-old was hitting .261 with nine doubles, two homers and 21 RBIs in 50 games for the Twins while playing first and third base as well as some time at designated hitter.
Cirillo began his Major League career with the Brewers in 1994, and in 1,589 career Major League at-bats, he has a .297 batting average.
When Cirillo reports, the D-backs will have to make room on their 25-man roster for him. |
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wedge
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| Posted: Fri Aug 03, 2007 4:03 pm Post subject: |
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| that situation is a lot better. |
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kris
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| Posted: Fri Aug 03, 2007 4:03 pm Post subject: |
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| qudjy1 wrote: |
D-backs claim Cirillo off waivers
LOS ANGELES -- The D-backs claimed infielder Jeff Cirillo from the Twins on Friday.
The 37-year-old was hitting .261 with nine doubles, two homers and 21 RBIs in 50 games for the Twins while playing first and third base as well as some time at designated hitter.
Cirillo began his Major League career with the Brewers in 1994, and in 1,589 career Major League at-bats, he has a .297 batting average.
When Cirillo reports, the D-backs will have to make room on their 25-man roster for him. |
That means that D-backs didn't give up anyone ...?
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qudjy1
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| Posted: Fri Aug 03, 2007 4:05 pm Post subject: |
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| kris wrote: |
That means that D-backs didn't give up anyone ...? |
I think that is right - as it was a waiver "claim", they just pay his salary. Someone needs to come off the 25 man roster though.
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