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admdavid · Posted: Tue Aug 14, 2007 9:28 am Post subject:

You haven't seen parking nightmares until you've tried to park in SD. Easily one of the worst places to park outside of NYC or Boston.

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moviegeekjn · Posted: Tue Aug 14, 2007 9:31 am Post subject:

David B · Posted: Tue Aug 14, 2007 9:37 am Post subject:

Yep, I was there for the first two games of the 01 World Series and I parked for free each time. And one of the days there was even a hockey game (Coyotes/Avs) going on in the area as well.
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What they need to do is sack up and cut beer prices.

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matt · Hall of Famer Joined: 10 Aug 2006 Posts: 3657

I'll buy the money excuse to an extent. It is quite hard to sell kids on bringing food from home. However, it is a choice of priorities. If you are so hard up that you can't do ANYTHING then fine, money is an issue. Most people, however, go to an occasional movie or something else. You can go to the ballpark instead of the movies.

Also, nobody said you have to bring the whole family. Go with a friend. Get free parking and eat cheap. It doesn't have to be expensive.

I've only been to two games so far but I'll be seeing at least three more. I might take my daughter to a Wednesday game though.

I'm sick of the Jerry complaints. He fucked up and got fired. Get over it. Gonzo was hardly mistreated. Sure, they said they didn't want him back under any circumstances but throughout the season they bent over backwards to make him happy and honor every made up accomplishment of his (500 doubles/300 HR). Jesus, they went out and painted his number on the field in his last day.

I'm so sick of the 'tradition' crap also. Did these people revolt when the Suns added the all orange unis? Did they have shitfits when the Coyotes changed unis? Just about every major sports team has changed names or colors.

Comments about how the kids can't stay up is bullshit also. They aren't delicate flowers, they can handle staying up till 11 a few times a year.

David B · Posted: Tue Aug 14, 2007 10:04 am Post subject:

The truth is that the price of the baseball experience in Phoenix is less than it is at a number of other cities I've visited recently (St Louis, Boston, San Francisco, New York, Chicago and Seattle leap readily to mind). The only difference is that baseball in those cities has become part of the local culture (yes, even in Seattle) and so fans turn out even if they bitch about the same ticket prices/parking/beer prices that Valley residents do.
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shoewizard · Posted: Tue Aug 14, 2007 10:09 am Post subject:

Most of the people responding there are the same ones that turn around and stare at me like I'm a lunatic if heckle an umpire or try to get a Lets Go D Backs chant going.

I actually had an old lady reprimand me on Sunday for heckling the umpire, calling me a "bad sport".

I just turned around and told her not to be so rude. If she didn't understand baseball, she shouldn't comment to other people.

moviegeekjn · Posted: Tue Aug 14, 2007 10:14 am Post subject:

YBC-Dog · Posted: Tue Aug 14, 2007 10:21 am Post subject:

What the Diamondbacks need to do is pack up the team and move to a city where fans are less shitty - and apparently cheap - where fans will realize how lucky they are to have their own MLB franchise...especially one with the history the Diamondbacks have.

I am so sick of the excuses I just threw up in my mouth a little.

JGDBAX · Journeyman Joined: 07 Apr 2007 Posts: 250

It's sad that we have so many fairweather fans in our state. I kind of want to point those people in our direction so they can get a real education about baseball but then I also don't want to compromise this site to fairweather fans. Confused

Aaron · Posted: Tue Aug 14, 2007 10:41 am Post subject:

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Hock · September Call-Up Joined: 11 Aug 2006 Posts: 85

I usually pay to park. I always pay $5, and then play the game as I walk past higher priced places..."I just earned $2 to walk a block." I usually have a beer before I go in to the game, two in the park, and depending on the plan one after the game.

My understanding is you can buy a huge burrito at Garcia's for $5. I'm pretty sure a burrito at any other Garcia's is more then $5.

Me, I'm a hot dog a beer guy. I only wish they would sell Carnation frozen malts with wood spoons again. I would totally flashback to my childhood.

I've ranted here plenty of times about how I feel the fan experience is horrible at Bob/Chase, however I'm still a season ticket holder, and still go every chance I get. I love baseball...and it's money well spent for me.

They would fill a lot more seats if they improved the fan experience...make it like a ball park. It should be fun...you're kids should have fun...they should not be getting repremanded by ushers just for being kids.

matt · Hall of Famer Joined: 10 Aug 2006 Posts: 3657

True, the Garcia's burritos are actually a great price. The pizzas aren't too expensive either.

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moviegeekjn · Posted: Tue Aug 14, 2007 12:41 pm Post subject:

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Hock · September Call-Up Joined: 11 Aug 2006 Posts: 85

I think I saw the same deal for popcorn at one of the movie theaters too.

I remember dollar days at Dodger Stadium. $1 seat and $1 beer. In today's economy you could to a $5 day and it would still be fun and get people there.

Stuart · Posted: Tue Aug 14, 2007 1:58 pm Post subject:

Did some rooting around and random comparisons between the concession prices you have mentioned and those at soccer stadiums around the country here, and its basically very similar.

£4.50 for a cold pie thats probably a month out of date, although beer is slightly dearer there i suppose. Probbly only about $4 here for a beer, and its our beer is better anyway lol.

Just curious, how is Chase Field so far as access to the general public goes? by that i mean those who dont drive for example, or those who would rather not drive to games?
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stu · Veteran Presence Joined: 12 Aug 2006 Posts: 1804

1. Agree that parking is easily free. No valid excuse there unless you have an infirmity.

2. The food could be better althought the burro and tacos at Garcia's are good and reasonable. The sausages at Hungry Hill used to be good, but hey went downhill a couple of years ago and I haven't ben back. The regaular hot dogs are something like $3. Smother them with relish, onions, mustard, ketchup (all free) and you have a salad bar.

3. The beer prices are fooish. Look at the good press Arte got for lowering his prices. I have friends who would buy beers, but don't just out of protest. No reason not to lower this. I would love to see the elasticity of beer prices at ball games. Arte has never lost money on anything, I can't believe he didn't check this out before he did it.

4. I don't buy souveniers, but the idea of the $6 hat is not that it is as "good" as the $19 hat. No one thought that. The idea is to give the consumer a choice and to have the kid something.

5. I think these letters show that the fault is not the stars, but in the fans themselves. It is ticket scarcity that drives the market in Phoenix. When the Dbacks came people were concerned they wouldn't have tickets so they bought season tickets. After a while it became clear that there would be plenty of tickets. Unlike SD, SF, St. Louis, Baltimore, etc, people are not going to the game for the park, the food or the atmosphere. The park is too big, too impersonal and has nothing worthwhile around it. The team is stuck with this.

6. The club never tried to develop baseball fans under JC. Having a radio announcer who had never announced a professionl game hurt. Raising ticket prices on fan appreciation day. Having the huge stadium instead of an intimate one. Putting it next to the RR tracks. Putting up a parking lot in a prime spot for commercial. Baseball fans have to be in for the long haul. You need to make the stadium experience an enjoyable one. Jerry was in for the short haul. He made his money without investing any.

7. I think the new owners have an uphill battle. I think they are doing almost as well as they can under tought circumstances.