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Dylan · MLB Rookie Joined: 11 Aug 2006 Posts: 232

Unfair to whom? Both teams play by the same rules.

csktech · September Call-Up Joined: 25 Jan 2007 Posts: 94

B. O. N. D. · Posted: Mon Jan 29, 2007 12:05 pm Post subject:

Well, it would be unfair to Micah Owings if he didn't get his chance to swing. Razz

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Dylan · MLB Rookie Joined: 11 Aug 2006 Posts: 232

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csktech · September Call-Up Joined: 25 Jan 2007 Posts: 94

shoewizard · Posted: Mon Jan 29, 2007 3:09 pm Post subject:

Dangerfield · Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2007 9:01 am Post subject:

the dh blows. but viva la difference. If i want to watch beer softball, I'll watch a Yankee game.
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Dylan · MLB Rookie Joined: 11 Aug 2006 Posts: 232

Dangerfield · Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2007 9:17 am Post subject:

al=beer softball...which is fine, nothing wrong with it, but it is what is, there's a bazillon variables on run differentials between the leagues, but to say, the two leagues generally aren't managed and played differently is well is like saying the sb is overrated. Laughing

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NJ-DBACKS-FAN · Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2007 9:20 am Post subject:

David B · Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2007 10:12 am Post subject:

Beer Softball League=NL games in pre-humidor Coors Field. Nothing involving a DH was ever this bad.

qudjy1 · Veteran Presence Joined: 10 Aug 2006 Posts: 1067

Dangerfield · Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2007 10:38 am Post subject:

TAP · Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2007 10:56 am Post subject:

Coors Field is, without exaggeration, the greatest hitter's park in the history of Major League Baseball. The high altitude means batted balls face less wind resistance, the low air pressure reduces the break on curveballs and sliders, the low fences boost home run totals, the scant foul territory gives hitters plenty of second/third/fourth/etc. chances, and the spacious outfield means plenty of room for doubles and triples. In the late 90s and early aughts, this was like beer-league softball played in a Gravitron. In other words, it was something other than baseball.

To put life on Planet Coors into better perspective, let's take a look at how the park has influenced the scoring of runs since it came online prior to the 1995 season:

1995, increased run scoring by 28 percent
1996, 29%
1997, 23%
1998, 19%
1999, 29%
2000, 31%
2001, 22%
2002, 21%
2003, 12%
2004, 20%
2005. 13%
2006, 7%

As you can see, the use of the humidor has dampened (pun: lame, intended) the "Coors Effect" to a degree in recent seasons, but it's still very much an offensive environment. Historically, it's a run-scoring cauldron like none other.

moviegeekjn · Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2007 11:38 am Post subject:

TAP · Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2007 11:54 am Post subject:

ncdbackfan · Posted: Thu Feb 01, 2007 10:23 am Post subject:

little late here, but i hate the DH. that's why i love the NL.

Counsell · MLB Rookie Joined: 28 Aug 2006 Posts: 187

I would note that the current vote is 1 person for the DH and 22 against. That's very significant, when you consider that the vote was on THIS board, which generally has very sophisticated baseball fans.

David B · Posted: Thu Feb 01, 2007 4:23 pm Post subject:

Or, not quite so significant, when you realize the vote was on a board for a NL team. I think you'd get a bit different result on an AL team board.

Counsell · MLB Rookie Joined: 28 Aug 2006 Posts: 187

Get real. It's 22 to 1, not 16 to 7.

I'm a former A.L. fan for many years (Twins). My guess is that you'd get at least 30 to 40% (and maybe a lot more) voting against the D.H., not 4.4%.

McCray · Posted: Thu Feb 01, 2007 7:20 pm Post subject:

i think it depends on a few things. obviously, as david b mentioned, whether you're a fan of the NL or AL. i grew up an AL fan, but always sorta liked NL style baseball. but i'm also a bit of a boston fan, and i don't want to see david ortiz wear a glove --- ever. he's just too amazing with the bat, and he takes the game to a different level. and as much as i hate the MFY, it is amazing to watch giambi DH. or watching hafner.

i prefer NL style baseball to AL. and i am against the DH. but there are a few very rare DHs who i'm fine with. watching them play in the field would just sully it in a weird way.

so i think on an AL board the vote would be somewhat dependent on what caliber of DH they have. AL teams with an ass-tastic DH might very well have more NL supporters. teams with a really stellar DH would be totally against NL style ball, i'd wager.
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