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 Post subject: Re: 6/11 Dbacks (36-28) @ Dodgers (27-36)
 Post Posted: Wed Jun 12, 2013 8:45 am 
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Absolutely love this Miggy quote

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Montero, still in full catching gear, ended up on the ground next to Ward.

"It got pretty ugly," Montero said. "They came out of nowhere, just throwing punches. When everybody was trying to break it up, they just kept coming and throwing punches. It was like 25 against 72, because all the DL guys were out there, too. I guess their arms were feeling pretty good because they were throwing good punches."


http://scores.espn.go.com/mlb/recap?gameId=330611119


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 Post subject: Re: 6/11 Dbacks (36-28) @ Dodgers (27-36)
 Post Posted: Wed Jun 12, 2013 9:01 am 
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It's hard to look at last night as an isolated incident, as there was already bad blood between the two teams. I don't think Kennedy intentionally meant to hit Puig in the face, but when you go up and in and you miss that badly, you have to accept the consequences. The retaliation to Montero (re: the baseball code) should have ended things. IMO, the pitch to Greinke was an unnecessary FU.

Both Greinke and Kennedy have proven that they don't back down. There's the whole Greinke/Quentin thing, and Kennedy led the NL in hit batters last year and is leading again this year (and while his control hasn't been as good this season, the two years before that his walks were in the low 2s per 9 innings, meaning he knows exactly what he's doing when one gets away). I think we had an incident where a couple of tough competitors just let things go too far.


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 Post subject: Re: 6/11 Dbacks (36-28) @ Dodgers (27-36)
 Post Posted: Wed Jun 12, 2013 9:09 am 
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David B wrote:
IMO, the pitch to Greinke was an unnecessary FU.

I think we had an incident where a couple of tough competitors just let things go too far.


This is where we differ on opinion and thats fine... hitting Greinke was the retaliation for plunking Montero. Greinke plunking Montero was just the Dodgers getting their panties in a bunch. Kennedy had good luck going up an in on Puig in his 1st 2 ABs and took the same approach in his 3rd AB, just got away from him and Puig took a blow to the shoulder that took a path through his nose. It happens.

I have more of an issue with Greinke going into 2B cleats up and starting his slide 3 feet from the bag after the brawl occurred... luckily Didi is a tremendous athlete and avoided injury... now that wouldve been a brawl for the ages if Greinke had connected.

2nd statement I completely agree with... 2 fierce teams with some bad blood from being rivals, we can all remember Kershaw getting owned by Parra. Greinke escalated it and Kennedy finished it... all the theatrics and bull shit after that is on the Dodgers and I think the suspensions and fines will echo that.

Do find it amusing that someone as brittle and frail as Greinke is such an "enforcer"... just too bad he didnt pay the price last night like he did when he got uppity with Quentin.


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 Post subject: Re: 6/11 Dbacks (36-28) @ Dodgers (27-36)
 Post Posted: Wed Jun 12, 2013 11:26 am 
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TAP wrote:
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McGwire rage


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Dodgers pitcher JP Howell head slamming Diamondbacks hitting coach Turner Ward.
Howell wasn't ejected and pitched the next inning.


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Don Mattingly takes out his last place frustration on Alan Trammell

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 Post subject: Re: 6/11 Dbacks (36-28) @ Dodgers (27-36)
 Post Posted: Wed Jun 12, 2013 11:30 am 
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qudjy1 wrote:
LA isnt really that far out. 7.5 Games??? Thats nothing.

Good point. This is still a tight division, and with the right combination of players, anyone can get hot and win it. Puig is a notable example.


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 Post subject: Re: 6/11 Dbacks (36-28) @ Dodgers (27-36)
 Post Posted: Wed Jun 12, 2013 11:34 am 
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This isn't the NHL. MLB will continue to issue longer suspensions and bigger fines if these incidents keep happening between us and LA. In the future, I hope we get our retribution the right way i.e, Kubel hitting a home run after the guy before him gets hit.


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 Post subject: Re: 6/11 Dbacks (36-28) @ Dodgers (27-36)
 Post Posted: Wed Jun 12, 2013 11:43 am 
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http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=9375348

Olney's video blog

Up until now I didnt realize it took 3 pitches for Greinke to finally hit Montero, justifies Kennedy even further IMO

http://www.brooksbaseball.net/pfxVB/pfx ... batterX=47

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Pitch 1 looks like he was going upstairs and didnt run it in enough to get Montero above the shoulders
Pitch 2 says, well I missed my head shot, might as well just lay one in there and hit him and missed
Pitch 3 says, well I cant make this too obvious, lemme throw a real pitch
Pitch 4 finally connects

Kennedy on Puig HBP... Pitch 1 in the AB was an effective ball up and in.
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Puig's 2nd AB where Kennedy ate him up inside for the 4 strike strikeout
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Last, the Greinke intentional plunk
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 Post subject: Re: 6/11 Dbacks (36-28) @ Dodgers (27-36)
 Post Posted: Wed Jun 12, 2013 6:30 pm 
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That's the point that angers me the most is people are saying how bad Kennedy is for hitting Greinke where he did (yes it was bad) but lets not forget he went after Montero with both first 2 pitches the one nearly got him in the head of course no mention of that by all these so called writers finally he "settled" for the back because he was running out of chances. That would make me mad as hell as pitcher still I wish Ian would have stayed out of that game the Dodgers were baiting him to play and yes Donny leaving Greinke at 104 pitches in a 2-2 tie bottom 7th 1 out was deliberate to try and start something which happened. I'm torn over this whole thing because part of me hates playing down to the dodgers level but the other part is glad one of our pitchers stood up for one of our players for a change how many times has one of our players been hit in the head or suffered an injury due to an HBP since just the beginning of the season yet we didn't respond.

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 Post subject: Re: 6/11 Dbacks (36-28) @ Dodgers (27-36)
 Post Posted: Wed Jun 12, 2013 6:53 pm 
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The Dodgers don't sound like they are finished with this....

http://espn.go.com/los-angeles/mlb/story/_/id/9378450/los-angeles-dodgers-players-say-hostilities-arizona-diamondbacks-not-over


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 Post subject: Re: 6/11 Dbacks (36-28) @ Dodgers (27-36)
 Post Posted: Wed Jun 12, 2013 7:07 pm 
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I have more respect for Kennedy now then I did in 2011. Finally Greinke got a taste of what he deserves. Greinke is nothing but head case, and if he wants to play old school baseball, he is going to get back what he dishes out. The Puig hit was an accident the hit to Montero should have been lower and it deserved retaliation.

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 Post subject: Re: 6/11 Dbacks (36-28) @ Dodgers (27-36)
 Post Posted: Thu Jun 13, 2013 4:47 pm 
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No pitcher should ever throw at a hitter's head. NEVER.


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 Post subject: Re: 6/11 Dbacks (36-28) @ Dodgers (27-36)
 Post Posted: Thu Jun 13, 2013 5:31 pm 
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Looks like they have scores to settle with both us and the Padres. Guess being dead last you have to have something to look forward too.


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 Post subject: Re: 6/11 Dbacks (36-28) @ Dodgers (27-36)
 Post Posted: Thu Jun 13, 2013 9:22 pm 
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dbackfanron wrote:
No pitcher should ever throw at a hitter's head. NEVER.


NEVER EVER. we're seeing firsthand through Brandon McCarthy the results and aftermath of being hit in the head.
With that being said, I dont think IPK purposely went head hunting.

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 Post subject: Re: 6/11 Dbacks (36-28) @ Dodgers (27-36)
 Post Posted: Fri Jun 14, 2013 9:24 am 
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There's no question IPK didn't intentionally throw at Greinke's head. Apparently, it's completely inconceivable (to dodgers fans) that IPK's retaliation to Greinke ran further up and in than intended, especially given the fact that he has the most HBPs in the NL this season. I don't think there was any breach of baseball's hallowed "unwritten rules" in this case.


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 Post subject: Re: 6/11 Dbacks (36-28) @ Dodgers (27-36)
 Post Posted: Fri Jun 14, 2013 10:08 am 
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Still expecting word on the suspensions today I guess, from Stark's chat

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Tim (Dallas)

Why is MLB waiting so long to hand out the suspensions from the Diamondbacks/Dodgers brawl?
Jayson Stark (1:04 PM)

What I've been told is that they had so many players on the field, mixed up in this, they had many more "situations" to sift through than in your average brawl. They'll get it figured out today, though. Should be interesting. I'll be fascinated to see how many games Ian Kennedy got. Remember, Zack Greinke got 8 games for the Carlos Quentin incident, and I haven't been able to find any suspension longer for an HBP in my research. But this could be the time.


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Any idea if MLB will be handing down the Dodger suspensions today?
Jayson Stark (1:08 PM)

That's my understanding. Any time now.


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 Post subject: Re: 6/11 Dbacks (36-28) @ Dodgers (27-36)
 Post Posted: Fri Jun 14, 2013 10:23 am 
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wow, MLB is a joke

10 games for Kennedy... sure he'll appeal it down to 7-8

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Ian Kennedy gets a ten-game suspension;
Eric Hinske gets a five-game suspension;
J.P. Howell and Skip Schumaker each get two-game suspensions;
Ronald Belisario gets a one-game suspension;
Dodgers coach Mark McGwire was suspended two games;
Dodgers manager Don Mattingly and Diamondbacks manager Kirk Gibson were each suspended for one; and
Fines in undisclosed amounts were handed out to Zack Greinke, Yasiel Puig, Miguel Montero and Gerardo Parra.


http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/ ... acks-mele/

So Hinske obviously did much more than we could see in replays... he was in the middle of it all, but didnt seem to be doing much more than some wrestling around from what I've seen.

Howell and Bellisario go ape shit crazy and get 2 and 1 games... ha

Puig throws punches and only gets a fine

Greinke intentionally throws at Montero 3 times and only gets a fine

Kershaw throws a punch and gets nothing

This is MLB showing some epic Dodger man love


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 Post subject: Re: 6/11 Dbacks (36-28) @ Dodgers (27-36)
 Post Posted: Fri Jun 14, 2013 4:03 pm 
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Anyone else see this?
Dodger fans pissed because Kennedy wasn't suspended longer for "attempted murder"

http://www.forums.mlb.com/n/pfx/forum.a ... tid=131686


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 Post subject: Re: 6/11 Dbacks (36-28) @ Dodgers (27-36)
 Post Posted: Fri Jun 14, 2013 4:11 pm 
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What do you seriously expect from dodger fans?


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