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 Post subject: Re: Peter O'Brien
 Post Posted: Thu Mar 24, 2016 9:22 am 
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O'Brien had the hardest hit HR ever recorded on Tuesday night. Hopefully, a GM somewhere just has to have him.

http://m.mlb.com/news/article/168648778 ... t-home-run

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 Post subject: Re: Peter O'Brien
 Post Posted: Mon Jun 27, 2016 1:20 pm 
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shoewizard wrote:
O'Brien taking his walks in the AZFL

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"I've never been a big walk guy, but I'm trying more to get in good counts,'' said O'Brien, who, through 22 games was tied for the Fall League lead in free passes, with 16. "If you do that, you will get better pitches to hit.''


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Probably belongs back in the AL. Wonder if he could play any 3b ?


I wonder what happened to this approach and why he only tried in the AZFL.

I was actually hopeful after his stint there, but he immediately reverted back to old ways in Reno, and I've pretty much resigned myself to he probably won't change.


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 Post subject: Re: Peter O'Brien
 Post Posted: Sat Jul 02, 2016 9:41 am 
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Here is a list of guys who had between 40-60 PA's in a season with over 40% K Rate.

O'brien is actually towards the bottom of this table with a 41% K rate. There are 4 guys on the list that had good major league careers, Jayson Worth, Nate Colbert, Joe Carter and Chris Carter. A few others at least went on to play in the majors for a number of years and have a good season or two here or there, like Russel Branyon , Melvin Nieves, Dustin Mohr etc.

But most of them were younger than O'brien and were getting more hits on the rare occasion they put the ball in play.

O'brien has the potential to be better than what he has shown to date. Obviously he is clueless right now and swinging at everything. Can't pick up a breaking pitch and layoff it to save his life.

But it's not totally out of the question that O'brien could give some team some value in the future. The biggest problem was, is and probably always will be is he can't play a defensive position, so it's going to be hard to get him PA's in the future, and what AL team is going to insert him as a DH at this point ?

I really can't be bothered lining up all the columns. here is the original table link I only made a spread sheet to add in the K% . The PLay Index only allows me to make a setting like "K% over 40%", but doesn't show the actual k %. O'brien is near the top of the table in total K's, but the % is "only" 41%

Code:
Player          SO   PA   K%   Year   Age   BA   OBP   SLG   OPS
Brian Bixler   26   46   56.5%   2009   26   .227   .261   .341   .602
Blake Tekotte   21   40   52.5%   2011   24   .176   .263   .265   .528
Paul Ratliff   23   45   51.1%   1972   28   .071   .114   .143   .256
Carlos Peguero   28   57   49.1%   2012   25   .179   .193   .357   .550
Andy Wilkins   22   45   48.9%   2014   25   .140   .178   .186   .364
Floyd Wicker   20   41   48.8%   1969   25   .103   .146   .103   .249
Dustan Mohr   20   43   46.5%   2006   30   .175   .233   .350   .583
John Herrnstein   22   48   45.8%   1966   28   .178   .229   .178   .407
Mark Canha   20   44   45.5%   2016   27   .122   .140   .341   .481
Russell Branyan   19   42   45.2%   1999   23   .211   .286   .342   .628
Charlie Spikes   18   40   45.0%   1980   29   .278   .350   .306   .656
Henry Mercedes   25   56   44.6%   1997   27   .213   .302   .298   .600
Justin Maxwell   20   45   44.4%   2014   30   .150   .222   .175   .397
Chris Carter   20   46   43.5%   2011   24   .136   .174   .136   .310
Alan Zinter   19   44   43.2%   2002   34   .136   .136   .318   .455
Jayson Werth   22   51   43.1%   2003   24   .208   .255   .417   .672
Joe Koshansky   17   40   42.5%   2008   26   .211   .250   .526   .776
Jerry Sands   24   58   41.4%   2016   28   .236   .276   .291   .567
Peter O'Brien   24   58   41.4%   2016   25   .127   .172   .345   .518
Brandon Wood   19   46   41.3%   2009   24   .195   .267   .293   .559
Melvin Nieves   21   51   41.2%   1993   21   .191   .255   .319   .574
Nate Colbert   23   56   41.1%   1968   22   .151   .164   .170   .333
Paul Hoover   17   42   40.5%   2008   32   .200   .238   .225   .463
Freddy Garcia   17   42   40.5%   1997   24   .150   .190   .400   .590
John Orton   17   42   40.5%   1989   23   .179   .220   .205   .425
Donnie Murphy   19   47   40.4%   2010   27   .318   .348   .705   1.052
Joe Carter   21   52   40.4%   1983   23   .176   .176   .235   .412


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 Post subject: Re: Peter O'Brien
 Post Posted: Tue Jul 05, 2016 8:39 am 
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Demoted today.

Rookie seasons, minimum 40% K rate, minimum 40 PA's since WW2

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 Post subject: Re: Peter O'Brien
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Being able to rack up -0.8 bWAR over 60 PAs like he did is pretty impressive

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 Post subject: Re: Peter O'Brien
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Had 2 homers last night and 3 in 8 games since getting sent down, BUT ZERO walks and 12 K's in his 32 PA's

they should have sent him down with the directive to never ever swing at the first pitch and never swing at first pitch to get him to start seeing more pitches and maybe learn some pitch recognition.


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 Post subject: Re: Peter O'Brien
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shoewizard wrote:
Had 2 homers last night and 3 in 8 games since getting sent down, BUT ZERO walks and 12 K's in his 32 PA's

they should have sent him down with the directive to never ever swing at the first pitch and never swing at first pitch to get him to start seeing more pitches and maybe learn some pitch recognition.


That would require coaching and thinking something the organization is in short supply of.

But I hear Tyler Skaggs is looking good in his rehab starts and is about to get called back up.


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 Post subject: Re: Peter O'Brien
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shoewizard wrote:
Had 2 homers last night and 3 in 8 games since getting sent down, BUT ZERO walks and 12 K's in his 32 PA's

they should have sent him down with the directive to never ever swing at the first pitch and never swing at first pitch to get him to start seeing more pitches and maybe learn some pitch recognition.

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D4A'd now. They should have never acquired him in the first place. Lessons never learned: The Yankees are NEVER going to let a quality player leave the fold. I'm sure they saw enough of him to know he'd never make it in the big time. Oh sure, I was positive and half-way excited about his coming to AZ, but reality sets in sooner or later.

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 Post subject: Re: Peter O'Brien
 Post Posted: Wed Jan 04, 2017 3:54 pm 
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TheDesertSurfer wrote:
shoewizard wrote:
Had 2 homers last night and 3 in 8 games since getting sent down, BUT ZERO walks and 12 K's in his 32 PA's

they should have sent him down with the directive to never ever swing at the first pitch and never swing at first pitch to get him to start seeing more pitches and maybe learn some pitch recognition.

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D4A'd now. They should have never acquired him in the first place. Lessons never learned: The Yankees are NEVER going to let a quality player leave the fold. I'm sure they saw enough of him to know he'd never make it in the big time. Oh sure, I was positive and half-way excited about his coming to AZ, but reality sets in sooner or later.


Quality players that have recently left the Yankees to perform well elsewhere:
David Phelps
Yangervis Solarte
Vidal Nuno
AJ Burnett
George Kontos
Mark Melancon
Zach McAllister
Melky Cabrera
Austin Jackson
Ian Kennedy

And that's just in the last seven years. The Yankees have let plenty of quality players leave the fold. They're not some super secret organization that's winning because of their clutch trades and player development.


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