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Post subject: Re: 6/6 to 6/8 vs Tampa
Posted: Wed Jun 08, 2016 8:26 pm
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Justin wrote:
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Brian Anderson
BA has been impressive on the color end. Still too much fooling around on the broadcast, something which is far too prevalent in this day and age.
Is he BA36?
The former Dback of yesteryear, yes
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Post subject: Re: 6/6 to 6/8 vs Tampa
Posted: Wed Jun 08, 2016 8:28 pm
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goneforaburton75 wrote:
Regarding what the booth guys were debating, Do you guys agree that when it comes to an intentional walk the batter should be just put on 1st base to save time?
I like the suggestion for raising the strike zone, don't like the IBB idea.
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Post subject: Re: 6/6 to 6/8 vs Tampa
Posted: Wed Jun 08, 2016 8:29 pm
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JoeCB91 wrote:
goneforaburton75 wrote:
Regarding what the booth guys were debating, Do you guys agree that when it comes to an intentional walk the batter should be just put on 1st base to save time?
I like the suggestion for raising the strike zone, don't like the IBB idea.
I do. I have never seen the point to making 4 pitchouts. Put him on and get the next guy in.
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Post subject: Re: 6/6 to 6/8 vs Tampa
Posted: Wed Jun 08, 2016 8:33 pm
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Justin wrote:
JoeCB91 wrote:
goneforaburton75 wrote:
Regarding what the booth guys were debating, Do you guys agree that when it comes to an intentional walk the batter should be just put on 1st base to save time?
I like the suggestion for raising the strike zone, don't like the IBB idea.
I do. I have never seen the point to making 4 pitchouts. Put him on and get the next guy in.
That's how I see it to Justin, never got the point of 4 pitchouts and never seen one of those pitchouts thrown away either. Just put him on and get on with the game.
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TheDesertSurfer |
Post subject: Re: 6/6 to 6/8 vs Tampa
Posted: Wed Jun 08, 2016 8:35 pm
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Casali
high fast ball, deep left, too high to go out. 1 out
Odorizzi:
high bouncer, Bradley grabs it for the easy 1-3.
Motter:
high and away 1-0. high check swing 2-0. low and away 3-0. low ball 4
can't figure. two easy outs and he walks Motter on four pitches.
Dickerson:
homered first time around
dunker into left, no one can get it, single, Motter to second.
Longoria: first and second 2 out
high and away 1-0. low outside 2-0. down the pipe and Longoria hides in shame after taking that fat puppy. 2-1. single to center, Motter scores, Dickerson to third.
two out walks, leadoff walks, they come back to bite you, says BA.
Getting behind in the count tends to do that also.
LOMO: Butcher comes out. low and away 1-0. behind again. misses again low and away 2-0. BA calls this a "tale of two pitchers". low and away 3-0. WOEFUL inconsistency by Bradley so far. inning to inning Jekyll and Hyde, says BA
long drive to Peralta taken in front of the 413 right center
2-2 going to last of 3
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TheDesertSurfer |
Post subject: Re: 6/6 to 6/8 vs Tampa
Posted: Wed Jun 08, 2016 8:37 pm
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JoeCB91 wrote:
goneforaburton75 wrote:
Regarding what the booth guys were debating, Do you guys agree that when it comes to an intentional walk the batter should be just put on 1st base to save time?
I like the suggestion for raising the strike zone, don't like the IBB idea.
I don't either. Too many things can happen. make him throw four balls because anything can happen. There have been times where he accidentally threw a hittable eephus pitch and the batter got a hit. Also, wild pitches have even happened.
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Post subject: Re: 6/6 to 6/8 vs Tampa
Posted: Wed Jun 08, 2016 8:41 pm
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TheDesertSurfer wrote:
JoeCB91 wrote:
goneforaburton75 wrote:
Regarding what the booth guys were debating, Do you guys agree that when it comes to an intentional walk the batter should be just put on 1st base to save time?
I like the suggestion for raising the strike zone, don't like the IBB idea.
I don't either. Too many things can happen. make him throw four balls because anything can happen. There have been times where he accidentally threw a hittable eephus pitch and the batter got a hit. Also, wild pitches have even happened.
In 18 years off following baseball I have never seen that happen. I know it has, but it's so rare, so does it really matter?
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Post subject: Re: 6/6 to 6/8 vs Tampa
Posted: Wed Jun 08, 2016 8:43 pm
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goneforaburton75 wrote:
That's how I see it to Justin, never got the point of 4 pitchouts and never seen one of those pitchouts thrown away either. Just put him on and get on with the game.
Just for the hell of it
BTW, very first one is Prado
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-euNcCMy0CA
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Post subject: Re: 6/6 to 6/8 vs Tampa
Posted: Wed Jun 08, 2016 8:45 pm
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Goldy lines to Souza in right
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Peralta: off speed strike at the knees 0-1. grounder into right center through the shift. Diving attempt by Beckham's right. single.
because of Peralta's speed, Beckham couldn't play deep enough on the shift.
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Weeks: outside 1-1. high inside 2-1. foul at the plate 2-2. foul left, inside protect. foul back, high outside protect. grounded left of second, single. Peralta to third, throw goes into second. BA says well placed ground balls.
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Herrmann: foul back high inside half. swing and a miss on the outside corner, off speed.
grounder right side weakly. Beckham only play to first, 2 out. Peralta scores. 3-2.
works just like a squeeze.
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Tomas: high heat misses 1-0. strike called low inside 1-1. outside corner sent to Souza in right.
3-2 AZ after 3
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Post subject: Re: 6/6 to 6/8 vs Tampa
Posted: Wed Jun 08, 2016 8:45 pm
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Damn Justin, guess that changes the debate somewhat.
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Post subject: Re: 6/6 to 6/8 vs Tampa
Posted: Wed Jun 08, 2016 8:46 pm
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goneforaburton75 wrote:
In 18 years off following baseball I have never seen that happen. I know it has, but it's so rare, so does it really matter?
A little eg on your face after the youtube I posted? I remember Juan Brito had a passed ball on a IBB.
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Post subject: Re: 6/6 to 6/8 vs Tampa
Posted: Wed Jun 08, 2016 8:46 pm
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goneforaburton75 wrote:
Damn Justin, guess that changes the debate somewhat.
yeah
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Post subject: Re: 6/6 to 6/8 vs Tampa
Posted: Wed Jun 08, 2016 8:47 pm
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In 18 years off following baseball I have never seen that happen. I know it has, but it's so rare, so does it really matter?
The rules committee apparently thinks so, but who knows - maybe in the years ahead they will change it.
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Post subject: Re: 6/6 to 6/8 vs Tampa
Posted: Wed Jun 08, 2016 8:53 pm
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The Dbacks won a game against LA after a wild pick on an IBB attempt back in 2014 too.
One of the few bright moments in the Dbacks career of Tony Campana
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Post subject: Re: 6/6 to 6/8 vs Tampa
Posted: Wed Jun 08, 2016 8:54 pm
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Souza: stands 1-2. Bradley at 49 pitches going in
lines to Goldy.
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Jennings: high and tight 1-0. Todd Kalas is IN THE POOL. outside 2-0. inside, clearly on the corner, called ball 3. high ball 4.
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Beckham: fast ball high heat swing and a miss 0-1. tries to bunt, pitch runs too low can't get it 0-2. strike 3 called low inside corner.
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you get behind you don't get a call. You get ahead, you get a call.
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Casali: low ball 1. in the dirt, nice block by Herrmann on a tough breaker. high to go 3-0. inside corner strike 1. low ball 4.
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Odorizzi: first and second, 2 out. BA saying Bradley is Jekyll and Hyde from HITTER to HITTER now. grounds to Segura. going to last of 4,3-2 AZ
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Post subject: Re: 6/6 to 6/8 vs Tampa
Posted: Wed Jun 08, 2016 9:02 pm
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Bert is talking about how "the internet went crazy" about Segura being the leadoff guy because he doesn't walk much at all
Yeah, it looked good in April, but he has been a bit of an OBP black hole for the last month because of his approach at the plate.
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Post subject: Re: 6/6 to 6/8 vs Tampa
Posted: Wed Jun 08, 2016 9:06 pm
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AHMED: outside corner, out of the zone, called strike 1. fouled off the high outside corner, 0-2. does it again. BA commends Ahmed for choking up with 2 strikes. WOW!
smacks it into center for a single. Bat control. Hit a good breaker for a single.
Hmmm.....
BRADLEY: swing and a miss with Ahmed on the move. Got a lead, you can be aggressive. Behind - not so much. now shows bunt and takes a very buntable pitch for strike 2. Didn't get the memo. bunts foul and he's a K.
Todd Kalas is in the jacuzzi in the pool. DAMN! and he's on the CLOCK, too
what a life
SEGURA: strike called on the high outside. fat on the outside, hit deep right center and Jennings has it and lobs it back in. Ahmed was way off first and a good throw would
have made it a little too interesting. 2 out. Ball is not carrying so much today
says BA
LAMB: strike at the knees. fouled. Nothing but strikes this inning. pitch out, and Ahmed is picked off first. Hale will challenge. replay shows he was back in time. Call is quickly overturned. high 2-2. in the dirt, 3-2. swing and a miss at one almost in the dirt, out at first.
3-2 AZ after 4
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Post subject: Re: 6/6 to 6/8 vs Tampa
Posted: Wed Jun 08, 2016 9:08 pm
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JoeCB91 wrote:
Bert is talking about how "the internet went crazy" about Segura being the leadoff guy because he doesn't walk much at all
Yeah, it looked good in April, but he has been a bit of an OBP black hole for the last month because of his approach at the plate.
Bert saying anything about Bradley's Jekyll and Hyde act today? Really disturbing to watch it. Serious inconsistency. I was hoping Bradley could establish himself as a consistent starter but it's not working so far today.
Can't figure out how a guy can be so good one moment, and so bad the next.
really wierd
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Post subject: Re: 6/6 to 6/8 vs Tampa
Posted: Wed Jun 08, 2016 9:10 pm
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They have mentioned it, but not really in depth from what I've been paying attention to.
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Post subject: Re: 6/6 to 6/8 vs Tampa
Posted: Wed Jun 08, 2016 9:11 pm
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MOTTER: Bradley 67 pitches going in. Low 1-0. center cut at the knees flied to center, 1 out.
DICKERSON: outside 1-0. inside thigh high and a screaming liner to center, Peralta almost has it go over his head but makes the catch. 2 out
LONGORIA: left center and Peralta has it as the others back off
Half way mark 3-2 AZ
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