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Post subject: Re: Dbacks @ Cubs 6/3-6/5
 Posted: Sun Jun 05, 2016 8:20 pm
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bobster wrote:
TheDesertSurfer wrote:
CoJack wrote:
Not at a tv, was it Matt Williams fault for sending him?
I am watching on MLB-TV and the Cubcasters just said how stupid the whole thing was. Don't know if this was Williams' idea or something Hale wants to do.
But whoever thought it was the right thing to do AT THIS LEVEL is a @&$(@^$*@^$+ Chowderhead!!! IMHO.
Goldy wasn't paying attention and headed for third. And you can't have two guys standing on third.....
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Post subject: Re: Dbacks @ Cubs 6/3-6/5
Posted: Sun Jun 05, 2016 8:27 pm
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Cahill pitching
Bourn: record for assists by a 3B is 11. strike 3 called low inside corner
Grimm warming
Gosselin: ball 1 low called strike 1. swing and a miss same location. 0-2. Should be 2-0.
swing and a miss way inside 2 out
Goldy: count run to 3-2.
Goldy walked and Maddon just got the heave ho
Tripp Gibson made the call from first that Goldy had held up
Marquez pointed at Goldy seemingly saying he went too far, and the replay showed he went too far.
Dave Martinez takes over, he has to make the change, and Grimm will be called in to pitch to Lamb.
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Post subject: Re: Dbacks @ Cubs 6/3-6/5
Posted: Sun Jun 05, 2016 8:30 pm
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Well, at least Lamb avoided the golden sombrero.
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Post subject: Re: Dbacks @ Cubs 6/3-6/5
Posted: Sun Jun 05, 2016 8:32 pm
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Grimm's a righty but lefties only hitting .125 against him
1-0. swing and a miss down low. 1-1. does it again even lower 1-2.
low and away. Goldy stolen base without a throw. 2-2.
shot to Grimm, deflected to Zobrist, out at first on a close play
stretch
USA men's soccer team members do TMOTTBG
3-2 AZ
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Post subject: Re: Dbacks @ Cubs 6/3-6/5
Posted: Sun Jun 05, 2016 8:34 pm
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Post subject: Re: Dbacks @ Cubs 6/3-6/5
Posted: Sun Jun 05, 2016 8:38 pm
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Corbin 77 pitches going in
Szczur strikes out 1 out
Montero swing and a miss 0-1. fouled 0-2. Goldy unassisted 2 out
David Ross batting for Grimm
Butcher comes out.
Ahmed now at SS
1-2 on Ross. 2-2. low 3-2. foul tip held
after 7
3-2 AZ
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Post subject: Re: Dbacks @ Cubs 6/3-6/5
Posted: Sun Jun 05, 2016 8:46 pm
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The team record for strikeouts in a game is 18 against San Diego in 2007.
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Post subject: Re: Dbacks @ Cubs 6/3-6/5
Posted: Sun Jun 05, 2016 8:49 pm
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Herrmann singles off Travis Wood now pitching. off Russell's glove into right center
Ahmed up: bunted half way to the mound, sac works as Wood doesn't even look at second and gets the out at first.
Tomas: runner on 2nd 1 out. swing and a miss to go 0-2. blows him away on the high outside. 2 out.
Drury: intentional walk
Weeks will hit for Corbin.
Bosio comes out.
foul left. 0-1. foul right side, camera well 0-2. 2-2 now. pops up to Bryant and Wood stuffs Weeks again.
3-2 AZ going to last of 8
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Post subject: Re: Dbacks @ Cubs 6/3-6/5
Posted: Sun Jun 05, 2016 9:03 pm
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Clippard will pitch the 8th
tries to throw a pitch and falls down. stumbled as a cleat got caught in the plant foot
next one way high and away. 1-0. high fly left. Tomas has it, 1 out
Fowler gone
Zobrist: way high and away again 1-0. another one high and away 2-0. change for a strike on the outside corner. another one high and swing and a miss 2-2. in the dirt, way short of the plate. 3-2. change fouled weakly right. check swing high ball 4
5th walk of the series.
Bryant: high and away but swings and misses 0-1. high and called strike 2.
Marquez has a good strike zone....for the first five innings
foul tip held, strike 3
Soler: fouled off Herrmann, right on the shoulder. comes to the mound and grabs the Resin bag see if his grip still works. Appears to be OK. way high again and Herrmann has to leap to save this one. low 2-1. swing and a miss low and away 2-2. way high again and another leaping save by Herrmann. grounds to Ahmed
after 8
3-2 AZ
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Post subject: Re: Dbacks @ Cubs 6/3-6/5
Posted: Sun Jun 05, 2016 9:08 pm
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Bert mentions how Bourn has struck out four times today and then going into saying how he gave them just what they wanted today by seeing 29 pitches in his 5 AB.
Well, don't you ideally want your leadoff man getting on base more than anything else?
Four 4's in a game isn't helping anybody.
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Post subject: Re: Dbacks @ Cubs 6/3-6/5
Posted: Sun Jun 05, 2016 9:15 pm
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Bourn: 1 out
double switch in progress
Adam Warren coming in
Gosselin:
Heyward replaces Soler in right, Szczur to left
grounds to Russell, 2 out
Goldy:
Z ready for the 9th
ball 1. high, hits the zone, no call. 2-0. high again, swing and a miss 2-1
low 3-1. outside ball 4
Lamb: down the pipe taken for strike 1. strike 2 called at the knees.
high and away 1-2. high and further away 2-2. drilled toward the right field corner, Heyward with the running catch.
Going to last of 9
3-2 AZ
CUBBIES!!
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Post subject: Re: Dbacks @ Cubs 6/3-6/5
Posted: Sun Jun 05, 2016 9:17 pm
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bobster wrote:
Bert mentions how Bourn has struck out four times today and then going into saying how he gave them just what they wanted today by seeing 29 pitches in his 5 AB.
Well, don't you ideally want your leadoff man getting on base more than anything else?
Four 4's in a game isn't helping anybody.
Bourn's 10 pitch AB set the tone in the first and sent Arrieta on his flight to doom.
Might be the game's MVP If he affected Jake that much!
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Post subject: Re: Dbacks @ Cubs 6/3-6/5
Posted: Sun Jun 05, 2016 9:22 pm
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Ziegler pitching to LaStella pinch hitting
foul rocket to right
then long bomb to left, Bourn and Tomas collide but Bourn makes the catch
fortunately only a grazing collision. 1 out
Russell: takes strike 1. low 1-1. RIzzo on deck. comebacker right to Z, 2 out
Rizzo: All that between AZ and a HUGE upset.
low ball 1. fouls ball 2 at the plate to go 1-1. Same location. low and away 2-1. low and away 3-1. Definitely trying to keep the ball in the yard. low ball 4
Miggy: as the winning run as the tying run has just been walked on base.
outside ball 1, called strike 1. grounds to Goldy and the Dbacks win 3-2 and Arrieta loses his first game since last July.
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Post subject: Re: Dbacks @ Cubs 6/3-6/5
Posted: Sun Jun 05, 2016 9:24 pm
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Did not give the D'Backs much of a chance today. It would be nice if Corbin can pitch like that every game. Very nice win.
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Post subject: Re: Dbacks @ Cubs 6/3-6/5
Posted: Sun Jun 05, 2016 9:27 pm
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The Dbacks are having a terrible year, so of course the only games they win on this road trip are against reigning CY Young winners
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Post subject: Re: Dbacks @ Cubs 6/3-6/5
Posted: Sun Jun 05, 2016 9:33 pm
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When Herrmann came up in the 5th, Gosselin was on second, Goldy on first, there was
1 out. Lamb struck out, 2 out
Herrmann hit the slow roller right side, and got a single when Arrieta couldn't cover.
At that point, the bases should have been loaded. But Gosselin was next seen trying to
score. and was caught in the rundown.
WHOSE IDEA WAS IT TO TRY TO SCORE FROM SECOND ON AN INFIELD HIT???????
WHO TOLD GOSSELIN TO GO HOME OR DID HE DO IT ON HIS OWN??????
The fact that two runners ended up at third was because Gosselin got caught in the rundown and tried to get back to third. Goldy had nothing to do with the play. To blame him for not paying attention is WRONG. If Gosselin had stayed at third, AS HE SHOULD, Goldy would have stayed at second. If anyone didn't pay attention, it was Gosselin, IF HE TRIED TO SCORE ON HIS OWN.
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Gosselin was dead meat as soon as he left third. The fault is 100% his if he did it on his own and 100% on Windmill Williams if he told him to try and score.
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And if in anyone's mind was the idea that the Cubs weren't paying attention, that idea was quickly dismissed when they immediately came home and nailed Gosselin.
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Post subject: Re: Dbacks @ Cubs 6/3-6/5
Posted: Sun Jun 05, 2016 9:39 pm
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CoJack wrote:
Did not give the D'Backs much of a chance today. It would be nice if Corbin can pitch like that every game. Very nice win.
Corbin won the day to be sure, and even more miraculous is that we flat BLEW two runs, Clippard had a major struggle in the 8th, and we still held on to the W.
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Post subject: Re: Dbacks @ Cubs 6/3-6/5
Posted: Sun Jun 05, 2016 11:59 pm
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Took another look at the play on the archive with Bert and BB. The video shows Goldy rounding the bag at second, at which point Gosselin is not in the picture probably because he has already left for home, which is a mistake. The runners were in motion on the 3-2 and 2 out, but still there was no call for Gosselin to try to score.
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BB says it's Goldy's mistake but I strongly disagree. Gosselin is out of the picture as Goldy rounds second. If Gosselin had held third, Goldy should have immediately seen that and gone back to second,but I think he saw that Gosselin was heading home, so he continued to third. In a rundown, the trailing runner is always taught to
head to the last base previously occupied by the runner in front of him, who is the runner caught in the rundown.
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Gosselin was the one tagged out so Goldy was NOT a factor in the play. If Gosselin had held third, and Goldy continued to third then it WOULD be his fault, but that's not what
happened. As soon as Gosselin left third and tried to score and got caught in the rundown Goldy kept coming to third and that IS THE CORRECT MOVE. The fault is in the Dbacks trying to score on the play. Whatever caused Gosselin to try to score is where the fault lies. It was NOT on Goldy, BB. Bert said Gosselin had nowhere to go, which is true once he left third, where he should have stayed.
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Post subject: Re: Dbacks @ Cubs 6/3-6/5
Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2016 4:49 am
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TheDesertSurfer wrote:
Took another look at the play on the archive with Bert and BB. The video shows Goldy rounding the bag at second, at which point Gosselin is not in the picture probably because he has already left for home, which is a mistake. The runners were in motion on the 3-2 and 2 out, but still there was no call for Gosselin to try to score.
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BB says it's Goldy's mistake but I strongly disagree. Gosselin is out of the picture as Goldy rounds second. If Gosselin had held third, Goldy should have immediately seen that and gone back to second,but I think he saw that Gosselin was heading home, so he continued to third. In a rundown, the trailing runner is always taught to
head to the last base previously occupied by the runner in front of him, who is the runner caught in the rundown.
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Gosselin was the one tagged out so Goldy was NOT a factor in the play. If Gosselin had held third, and Goldy continued to third then it WOULD be his fault, but that's not what
happened. As soon as Gosselin left third and tried to score and got caught in the rundown Goldy kept coming to third and that IS THE CORRECT MOVE. The fault is in the Dbacks trying to score on the play. Whatever caused Gosselin to try to score is where the fault lies. It was NOT on Goldy, BB. Bert said Gosselin had nowhere to go, which is true once he left third, where he should have stayed.
Watched it as well and came to the same conclusion. Goldy sees that Gosselin has rounded and heading home. He did the right thing by advancing. Phil didn't have a place to go once he decided for some reason to score but that is where the mistake was made not the afterwards with Goldy taking 3rd base.
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Post subject: Re: Dbacks @ Cubs 6/3-6/5
Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2016 11:22 am
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Was shocked to land at JFK after a 15 1/2 hour flight and see this result. Will look forward to viewing highlights and reading about game
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