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 Post subject: Re: Chris Owings
 Post Posted: Sat May 17, 2014 5:09 pm 
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 Post subject: Re: Chris Owings
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Should have flipped it to Hill.

Or he shouldn't have thrown it into the 30th row. Hill doesn't turn that DP either. Plenty of SS's can make the jump-throw. It was a physical error, not a mental error.

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 Post subject: Re: Chris Owings
 Post Posted: Sat Jun 21, 2014 5:04 pm 
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Owings continuing to defy history of players who don't walk much. He's only taken 1 walk in his last 74 PA, and his season walk rate has dipped below 5%. But he is hitting for both average and power. He has a .184 ISO !!

Here are 2014 NL Rookies ranked by WAR, minimum 50 PA

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Rk            Player WAR/pos  PA Age  Tm  G  AB  R  H 2B 3B HR RBI BB SO SB CS   BA  OBP  SLG  OPS
1       Chris Owings     2.3 250  22 ARI 70 234 26 66 15  5  6  21 12 49  7  0 .282 .319 .466 .784
2     Billy Hamilton     1.7 261  23 CIN 67 240 35 66 12  3  4  22 13 46 30  8 .275 .311 .400 .711
3     Ender Inciarte     0.7  91  23 ARI 35  86 11 18  2  0  0   4  3 12  4  0 .209 .236 .233 .469
4        Kolten Wong     0.6 171  23 STL 45 158 14 36  5  2  1  16 10 18  9  1 .228 .282 .304 .586
5       Tommy Medica     0.4  80  26 SDP 36  75 11 19  3  2  3   8  5 29  0  0 .253 .300 .467 .767
6    Tommy La Stella     0.4  88  25 ATL 21  79  6 26  3  0  0   6  8  8  1  0 .329 .391 .367 .758
7      David Peralta     0.3  74  26 ARI 19  73 10 22  4  0  1   3  1 13  2  0 .301 .311 .397 .708
8    Gregory Polanco     0.3  53  22 PIT 10  49  9 18  1  0  1   6  4  6  0  0 .367 .415 .449 .864
9       Tony Sanchez     0.2  76  26 PIT 21  72  3 20  1  0  2  12  3 26  0  0 .278 .316 .375 .691
10     Eric Campbell     0.2  63  27 NYM 26  56  6 16  4  0  1   7  4 15  0  0 .286 .333 .411 .744


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Just for shits and grins, I used the Neutralized batting tool at Owings BB-Ref page and set the dropdowns to 1996, AL, Yankee Stadium. That was Derek Jeter's rookie year. He hit .314/.370/.430

Owings career line to date comes out to .324/.370/.510 using that tool. His actual is .284/.327/.450

Offensive environment has changed just a bit.... ;)

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 Post subject: Re: Chris Owings
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Owings may finish the season with a higher WAR but I think the ROY will be going to Hamilton if he continues to steal that many bases.


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 Post subject: Re: Chris Owings
 Post Posted: Sat Jun 21, 2014 5:19 pm 
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Hamilton has hit with more power than expected. I agree he is the favorite because of the steals and overall dynamic perceptions.

Pretty interesting to look at the guts of their WAR calculation.

Owings has Hamilton by 6 Batting runs, but Hamilton has Owings by 4 SB runs and 1 DP run.

The rest of Owings advantage is Positional adjustment and replacement value.

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Name              G  PA Rbat Rbaser Rdp Rfield Rpos RAA WAA Rrep RAR WAR oWAR dWAR
ChrisOwings      70 250    3     -0   0      8    3  15 1.5    8  23 2.3  1.5  1.1
BillyHamilton#   67 261   -3      4   1      7    1   9 0.9    8  18 1.7  1.0  0.8


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 Post subject: Re: Chris Owings
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Shoulder surgery

http://m.dbacks.mlb.com/news/article/97 ... der-labrum

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 Post subject: Re: Chris Owings
 Post Posted: Wed Oct 01, 2014 7:36 pm 
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Figured as much after he got benched and his comments about it not getting any better. Why didn't they give him an MRI when he first got hurt ??????

EDIT: I stand corrected on the MRI, he had one back in July. Jim with the facts

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 Post subject: Re: Chris Owings
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Of course...

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 Post subject: Re: Chris Owings
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shoewizard wrote:
Figured as much after he got benched and his comments about it not getting any better. Why didn't they give him an MRI when he first got hurt ??????

EDIT: I stand corrected on the MRI, he had one back in July. Jim with the facts

He may have had an MRI, but they do have their limits. As Jim wrote, when the injury didn't respond to rehab why didn't they find out why? Einstein's theory of repetition at work, grit edition.

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 Post subject: Re: Chris Owings
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Chris Owings 400 career PA, 22 walks, 80 K's. 6 of those walks came during a very flukey 9 game stretch in September of his rookie year.

Since that little stretch, 16 walks in 376 PA

Don't know if the shoulder will continue to impact his swing. But Owings is just not going to have anything resembling a league avg walk rate in any extended sample size.

Career batting line so far: .261/.304/.395 .699 OPS

Really hope that his hit tool re surfaces. The team needs that resurgence.

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 Post subject: Re: Chris Owings
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I imagine this does not help the shoulder

https://twitter.com/azc_zachb/status/586021805153845248, https://twitter.com/azc_zachb/status/586022127804915713

"Chris Owings strikes out on three pitches. He's following through with one hand, which is the opposite of the change he made in spring. A two-hand follow-through takes stress off his surgically repaired shoulder. If he's at war with his new mechanics could explain rough start"

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 Post subject: Re: Chris Owings
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Sigh.....I'm already looking forward to Domingo Leyba

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 Post subject: Re: Chris Owings
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Or maybe Brendan Rodgers a little farther down the road.


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 Post subject: Re: Chris Owings
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Drury looked good in the spring tra la.

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yes he did. I'd be good with giving him a shot at 2b.

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 Post subject: Re: Chris Owings
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I really hope Drury gets an extended look at some point this season. I am worried about Chris but feel he should get the majority of at bats at short once Drury is called up


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 Post subject: Re: Chris Owings
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Wanderingthedesert wrote:
I really hope Drury gets an extended look at some point this season. I am worried about Chris but feel he should get the majority of at bats at short once Drury is called up


Owings needs to out OPS Ahmed by 50 points minimum to justify the difference in defense most likely. That may not be hard to do though.

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 Post subject: Re: Chris Owings
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Swing analysis

http://insidethezona.com/2015/04/chris-owings-swing-ineffective-fixable-strikeout-diamondbacks/

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 Post subject: Re: Chris Owings
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4/35

sigh.....

(walk to K ratio)

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 Post subject: Re: Chris Owings
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shoewizard wrote:
4/35

sigh.....

(walk to K ratio)



Maybe he thought is was Micah Owings and that that is a good number? (for pitchers)

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