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 Post subject: Re: Justin Upton, ex DBack
 Post Posted: Thu Nov 02, 2017 5:09 pm 
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Is there any research into the pace of decline between players that achieved higher talent levels earlier in career and the late-bloomers?

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 Post subject: Re: Justin Upton, ex DBack
 Post Posted: Wed Nov 29, 2017 12:33 pm 
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Is 2018 finally the year the players the d backs brought back in the Justin Upton trade take the lead in value provided?
to date
Drury, Ahmed, Delgado, Prado, & Spruill combined 9.1 WAR as DBacks
Upton 2013-2015 b4 free agency 10.5 WAR for Atl & SD

Paid more but just 1 roster spot too


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 Post subject: Re: Justin Upton, ex DBack
 Post Posted: Sun Feb 18, 2018 8:56 am 
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shoewizard wrote:
I saw on MLB trade rumors and estimate for JD Martinez of 6 yrs, 150 million. I don't think he gets that much, maybe 6/120-130

Either way Did Upton leave money on the table ?

Upton and Martinez last 3 years. They are same age, but Upton has almost twice as many career PA's, over 6000 compared to just over 3000 for JD.
Obviously JD has become the far better hitter, but bloomed late, and has been injury prone. Upton has been very healthy, and brings more value with his glove and on the basepaths, where Martinez is a negative. But those skills will erode soon too.

Will be interesting to see which player ages better and performs better from here. Right now I think most would figure Martinez, but I'm not so sure.



PlayerWAR/posOPS+RfieldRbaserPAGHRBBSOHBPGDPSBCSBAOBPSLGOPS
Justin Upton12.012016.04.518814559219251811344214.256.336.487.822
J.D. Martinez10.9148-23.0-5.2166339710515543484784.296.363.580.943



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So it looks like Justin was smarter than all of us. Or rather his priority was to know where he was gonna play, and not have to deal with uncertainty. Clearly money not the most important thing to Justin Upton.

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Rather than exercise a player opt-out clause in his previous contract, Justin Upton chose to avoid free agency by agreeing to a new five-year, $106MM contract to stay with the Angels. Upton’s enjoyment of his time in Anaheim certainly played a role in his decision to remain, though as he told reporters (including the Orange County Register’s Jeff Fletcher), he was also wary of a long wait on the open market. “I kind of got a little taste of it two years ago when I was a free agent,” Upton said. “I kind of understood the way the trend was going. At the end of the day, if you can avoid it, avoid it, because things are definitely changing.”


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 Post subject: Re: Justin Upton, ex DBack
 Post Posted: Sun Feb 18, 2018 2:42 pm 
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Chris Young and J-Up reunited

https://twitter.com/Angels/status/965327265738338304

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