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David B
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Post subject: Re: A Miami Clinic Supplies Drugs to Sports Biggest Names
Posted: Fri Aug 23, 2013 3:34 pm
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EvilJuan wrote:
* He denied it - and was "exonerated" on a technicality, laying the blame on someone who subsequently lost his job.
While much of what you say I agree with, the reason Mr. Laurenzi lost his job had nothing to do with Ryan Braun or anything that Braun said or insinuated. Laurenzi lost his job because he made a procedural error and left his employer vulnerable to, at the very least, some bad publicity. People who can't do their jobs correctly lose them every day. This is totally independent from what Ryan Braun did or didn't do. What Braun does owe Laurenzi an apology for is insinuating that he (Laurenzi) is an anti-Semite.
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Post subject: Re: A Miami Clinic Supplies Drugs to Sports Biggest Names
Posted: Fri Aug 23, 2013 5:55 pm
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David B wrote:
EvilJuan wrote:
* He denied it - and was "exonerated" on a technicality, laying the blame on someone who subsequently lost his job.
While much of what you say I agree with, the reason Mr. Laurenzi lost his job had nothing to do with Ryan Braun or anything that Braun said or insinuated. Laurenzi lost his job because he made a procedural error and left his employer vulnerable to, at the very least, some bad publicity. People who can't do their jobs correctly lose them every day. This is totally independent from what Ryan Braun did or didn't do. What Braun does owe Laurenzi an apology for is insinuating that he (Laurenzi) is an anti-Semite.
Thank you, David, for clarifying that for me.
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Post subject: Re: A Miami Clinic Supplies Drugs to Sports Biggest Names
Posted: Fri Aug 23, 2013 6:45 pm
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His [Braun's] long-awaited apology was scripted, rehearsed and released.
It was a nauseating joke.
It began like they all do: Blaming some undisclosed injury that was making his life miserable. He began by acting like a victim.
Somehow, poor Ryan was tempted to cheat because his body was failing him. And then someone told him that a little cream and a few lozenges could do the trick. And then in a singular moment of weakness, he caved in.
So he tried it. He didn't realize he was cheating. He lived in denial. But now he's come to his senses. And he's really sorry, especially to the people who trusted him.
He should be penalized another 100 games just for that apology.
From a legal standpoint, Braun's apology probably checked a box, allowing him to never address this situation again. But from a real-life perspective, this is only going to cause him more problems.
We all know he threw a common man under a bus, a man who collected urine for a living.
We all know he lied to our face in the past, at a press conference in Maryvale.
If he was really interested in forgiveness, he'd speak from the heart. But that assumes he has one.
http://arizonasports.com/267/1657600/Bi ... -is-a-joke
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Post subject: Re: A Miami Clinic Supplies Drugs to Sports Biggest Names
Posted: Fri Aug 23, 2013 8:07 pm
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Braun said this spring that he would, in his words, "bet his life' that he had never taken PEDs. I don't want to collect on the bet, but it shows his character.
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Post subject: Re: A Miami Clinic Supplies Drugs to Sports Biggest Names
Posted: Sat Jan 11, 2014 7:59 pm
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Justice served. Alex Rodriguez has been suspended for the entire 2014 season by arbitrator Fredric Horowitz, who reduced the New York Yankees third baseman's ban from 211 games to 162 for his involvement in Major League Baseball's Biogenesis scandal.
Hopefully it's the last we'll see of the career-long cheat on the field.
http://espn.go.com/new-york/mlb/story/_ ... -162-games
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Post subject: Re: A Miami Clinic Supplies Drugs to Sports Biggest Names
Posted: Sun Jan 12, 2014 9:34 pm
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Post subject: Re: A Miami Clinic Supplies Drugs to Sports Biggest Names
Posted: Tue Jan 21, 2014 12:38 pm
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Sources: MLB Players Association would expel Alex Rodriguez – if it could
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Post subject: Re: A Miami Clinic Supplies Drugs to Sports Biggest Names
Posted: Tue Apr 08, 2014 4:26 pm
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Ryan Braun asked to pee in a cup in 3...2...1...
http://scores.espn.go.com/mlb/boxscore?gameId=340408122
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matt
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Post subject: Re: A Miami Clinic Supplies Drugs to Sports Biggest Names
Posted: Wed Apr 09, 2014 11:11 am
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That's quite a nice day for him!
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Post subject: Re: A Miami Clinic Supplies Drugs to Sports Biggest Names
Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2014 2:16 pm
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http://www.nytimes.com/2014/11/06/sport ... .html?_r=0
In a reversal from his public statements, Alex Rodriguez told federal agents in January that he had used performance-enhancing drugs supplied by a South Florida clinic, according to a report in The Miami Herald.
Rodriguez, a Yankees third baseman who was recently reinstated after serving a season-long doping suspension, offered his admission after federal prosecutors granted him immunity in a wide-ranging investigation of Anthony Bosch and his clinic, Biogenesis of America, The Herald said. The Herald’s report was based on a 15-page synopsis of the meeting between Rodriguez and federal agents on Jan. 29.
Rodriguez, who has repeatedly denied the use of performance-enhancing drugs in connection with Bosch, told investigators that he paid Bosch about $12,000 a month for his services and substances, including prefilled syringes with hormone injections into his stomach, The Herald said. Bosch also gave Rodriguez “tips on how to beat M.L.B.'s drug testing,” the report said.
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Post subject: Re: A Miami Clinic Supplies Drugs to Sports Biggest Names
Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2014 2:50 pm
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I didnt need to see Grand Jury testimony to know he lied. Everybody breaking the rules it seems.
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Post subject: Re: A Miami Clinic Supplies Drugs to Sports Biggest Names
Posted: Sat Jun 06, 2015 1:22 am
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TAP wrote:
Justice served. Alex Rodriguez has been suspended for the entire 2014 season by arbitrator Fredric Horowitz, who reduced the New York Yankees third baseman's ban from 211 games to 162 for his involvement in Major League Baseball's Biogenesis scandal.
Hopefully it's the last we'll see of the career-long cheat on the field.
http://espn.go.com/new-york/mlb/story/_ ... -162-games
Apparently not
Now batting .284/.374/.530 .904 OPS 11 HR 28 RBI, leading a resurgent Yankees offense.
Meanwhile, Ryan Braun
Pre suspension .312/.374/.564 .938 OPS, AB/HR 17.5
Post suspension .264/.326/.462 .788 OPS, AB/HR 23.0
Out with injured thumb currently
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Post subject: Re: A Miami Clinic Supplies Drugs to Sports Biggest Names
Posted: Sat Jun 06, 2015 4:15 am
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It's a little better if the period between the test and suspension is included, where the biggest decline is slugging.
.272 .337 .471 .808
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Post subject: Re: A Miami Clinic Supplies Drugs to Sports Biggest Names
Posted: Sat Jun 06, 2015 4:36 am
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He needed time to cycle off...that shit stays in your system and can positively impact performance 6 months after you stop
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Post subject: Re: A Miami Clinic Supplies Drugs to Sports Biggest Names
Posted: Sat Jun 06, 2015 4:42 am
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Very true, and that is living proof of it.
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Post subject: Re: A Miami Clinic Supplies Drugs to Sports Biggest Names
Posted: Mon Jul 13, 2015 2:30 pm
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After hitting .254/.293/.423/.716 in April coming off thumb surgery, Braun comes into the All Star break with a slash line of .275/.340/.495/.835.
He also joins Nelson Cruz and Jhonny Peralta as previously suspended PEDers in this year's All Star game.
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Post subject: Re: A Miami Clinic Supplies Drugs to Sports Biggest Names
Posted: Mon Jul 13, 2015 3:34 pm
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David B wrote:
After hitting .254/.293/.423/.716 in April coming off thumb surgery, Braun comes into the All Star break with a slash line of .275/.340/.495/.835.
He also joins Nelson Cruz and Jhonny Peralta as previously suspended PEDers in this year's All Star game.
Maybe just normal decline...dunno
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Post subject: Re: A Miami Clinic Supplies Drugs to Sports Biggest Names
Posted: Thu Jul 16, 2015 6:53 am
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Post subject: Re: A Miami Clinic Supplies Drugs to Sports Biggest Names
Posted: Thu Jul 16, 2015 8:23 am
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Post subject: Re: A Miami Clinic Supplies Drugs to Sports Biggest Names
Posted: Fri Jul 17, 2015 12:40 pm
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